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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 5, 2015 15:34:50 GMT -5
Rebuilding the O-line should not take that long...guys like Bulaga, Franklin, Iupati, Jerry, Fox, Carpenter, Shipley...signing 2 of these guys and maybe drafting one would completely forify our line. Recipe for success. I could go along with that. Let's see if someone can actually make it happen. This year's patchwork job on the line outside of Brick and Mangold was sketchy. Yup and on top of that they are getting a little long on the tooth.
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Post by The Turk on Jan 5, 2015 15:44:48 GMT -5
I'd rather draft a guy and roll the dice. Mike Glennon? Seriously? wiyh our qb situation I don't think the two are mutually exclusive they should get as many breathing humans that can throw a 25 yard out route into the facility and look at each and every one ofthem. Last man standing is the qb.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 5, 2015 16:35:37 GMT -5
No !!!! Trade for brock osweiler instead Why? What has he done to make him a better fit for us then Glennon who has 19 starts under his belt already? The guy probably doesn't even get scout team reps sitting behind Manning...
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Post by rollofffjet on Jan 5, 2015 18:04:58 GMT -5
No !!!! Trade for brock osweiler instead Why? What has he done to make him a better fit for us then Glennon who has 19 starts under his belt already? The guy probably doesn't even get scout team reps sitting behind Forehead... When the jets draft a qb I would like them to sit for a year or two to learn and not get throw in to the fire right off the bat like geno did. I think it worked for chad Pennington. So that's why I want osweiler he sat be hide one of the best if not they best qb mind who has every play as u would call him mr forehead. And his oc gaze was a qb coach before becoming oc. I'm sure he learn how to study film with the best of them. Glennon I like but somethings not right your have great wide outs and you can't beat out a jag.
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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 18:24:42 GMT -5
What makes everyone think that Denver is just going to give away a QB that they are clearly developing behind Manning?
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Post by rollofffjet on Jan 5, 2015 18:30:44 GMT -5
What makes everyone think that Denver is just going to give away a QB that they are clearly developing behind Forehead? Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was drafted any way.
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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 18:32:27 GMT -5
What makes everyone think that Denver is just going to give away a QB that they are clearly developing behind Forehead? Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was drafted any way. No way. We need the picks. I'd send them Chris Ivory though. They need running backs.
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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 5, 2015 18:44:56 GMT -5
What makes everyone think that Denver is just going to give away a QB that they are clearly developing behind Forehead? Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was dra fted any way. A 2?? For a QB that is unproven? Your nuts lol and I mean that in a totally funny way lol.
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Post by rollofffjet on Jan 5, 2015 18:48:28 GMT -5
Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was drafted any way. No way. We need the picks. I'd send them Chris Ivory though. They need running backs. No I would not trade cris ivory in his prime low miles and he's a beast reminds me of lynch. He proved he can stay healthy this season we need him to tote the rock full time this year. If we can't trade for oswiler I would give Bradford great money but on a Heath base contract. I think he would be a top 10 qb in league if he can stay healthy.
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Post by rollofffjet on Jan 5, 2015 18:53:34 GMT -5
Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was dra fted any way. A 2?? For a QB that is unproven? Your nuts lol and I mean that in a totally funny way lol. Broncos used a 2 on him and he was learning from the best football mind? Shit we used a 2 on geno. It's a lot better than if we used a one on marraota or Winston if we had a high enough pick. Because they would have to sit and learn nfl defences. I would gladly give up a 2 for someone else hard work on the kid
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 5, 2015 19:14:03 GMT -5
Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was drafted any way. No way. We need the picks. I'd send them Chris Ivory though. They need running backs. Did you fall off the wagon?
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 19:21:49 GMT -5
@rapsheet 3m3 minutes ago #Bucs interviewed ex-#Bears head coach Marc Trestman for their vacant offensive coordinator job, sources says. He does know the QB
McCown isn't going anywhere and Glennon will surely be available
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 5, 2015 20:08:54 GMT -5
So lets give up a pick for a guy that's on the exact same track as Geno? Come on guys. What I'm saying is this: If the QB's available this year are so bad that we're resorting to Mike Glennon as a viable option then we're better off staying with Geno or Vick and revamping the OLine. Why waste time/picks on the lesser of two shitty situations? Just say fuck it, we're not going after any QBs and we're going to rebuild the foundation while we wait for one to come available. Absolutely give up the pick if the price is right. Then you have 2 young QBs in camp that have the physical skills to play QB in the NFL and have both shown some positive signs. You need a coaching staff that is focused first and foremost on teaching these guys the mental side of playing QB and see how they develop. In two years, both Glennon and Geno have put up numbers and winning % that compares favorably with the following QBs (all in the top 30 passing yardage leaders of all time) in their first two years: Brees, Moon , Tarkenton, Testaverde, Fouts, Kreig, Hasselback, Everett, Simms, Romo and Young (and I'm not even including Rodgers since he's not top 30 yet). A lot of these guys sat on the bench their first two years and learned the game. Do you know why? Because playing QB in the NFL is a really hard job that most coming out of college are not equipped to excel at right away. Luck and Wilson are freaks of nature (and ruined it for everyone coming after them) and if your expectation is that you're going to find another QB that's going to be as good as those guys in their first two years, you are going to be waiting a long time. I understand that some of these guys played in a different era but compare their QB rating (which shouldn't be affected that much by the era) and win loss % and you'll see that they were all comparable to or worse than Geno or Glennon or they were sitting on the bench. I know a lot of you think you've seen enought to know that Geno stinks, but the reality is you haven't. Lets give these guys a chance to develop with a real coaching staff and see what happens. I'm not sure that either of these guys is the answer, but i am sure that I haven't see enough of them to form any conclusions. If you can point out any one of the guys on that list who have done the stupid things Geno has then your point might make sense. But I'm guessing none of those guys tried to pass the ball behind their back, ran out of the end zone, or had a QBR of zero in a game.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jan 5, 2015 20:12:37 GMT -5
What makes everyone think that Denver is just going to give away a QB that they are clearly developing behind Forehead? Because forehead is stubborn he will play for atleast 3-4 more years And oswiler only has 1-2 years left on contract. they will have to draft another qb for Payton replacement unless they want to pay big money for a back up. I say send a 2 that's where he was pick when he was drafted any way. A 2 for an unproven QB. because he's sitting, so he has to be good? Lol, where to start with this line of Internet GM thinking.... simms has been sitting too, maybe we can trade him for a 2
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 5, 2015 20:52:29 GMT -5
Does he have trouble with 3 and 5 step dropbacks like Nick Foles does because of his height?
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