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Post by jetswin on Jan 8, 2015 12:03:50 GMT -5
@richcimini: Re Mike Maccagnan, Jets GM frontrunner: Over the last 5 drafts, only 1 Texans pick has made the Pro Bowl -- J.J. Watt. #nyj
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Post by astoria on Jan 8, 2015 12:08:41 GMT -5
So.... the consensus is that if you don't draft a pro bowl player more than once in 5 years then you suck? BTW, JJ Watt happens to be one of the best players in the NFL so that's a pretty good selection. Tell me how many of their drafted players in 5 years are still on the team making significant contributions. I'd be more interested in that statistic because John Idiotzik cut half of his 2014 draft class in their rookie season which would be something to be concerned about. This The Texans may have only drafted one pro-bowler (who happens to be the best overall player in football) over the last 5 years, but they've also drafted some key contributors. DeAndre Hopkins, D.J. Swearinger, Whitney Mercilus, Brooks Reed, Kareem Jackson, Ben Tate, Garrett Graham, etc. They also came up with one of the biggest UDFA steals of the last 5 or so years in Arian Foster. Besides, when the hell was the last time the Jets drafted a pro-bowler? Revis? That was almost a fucking decade ago. Great post. Pro Bowl voting is so stupid. Texans have had smart drafts and have gained good players. DeAndre Hopkins would be the best WR on this team. Mercilus and Reed are better pass rushing backers than we've had since Parcells. Swearinger is a better Calvin Pryor, and they got him in the mid rounds.
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Post by astoria on Jan 8, 2015 12:11:24 GMT -5
So.... the consensus is that if you don't draft a pro bowl player more than once in 5 years then you suck? BTW, JJ Watt happens to be one of the best players in the NFL so that's a pretty good selection. Tell me how many of their drafted players in 5 years are still on the team making significant contributions. I'd be more interested in that statistic because John Idiotzik cut half of his 2014 draft class in their rookie season which would be something to be concerned about. To be fair, Idzik drafted the best player to come from the 2013 draft so far, and that bought him exactly zero leeway with the billboard lunatics. So maybe Cimini is just putting Maccagnan in terms most Jets fans understand.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 8, 2015 12:14:45 GMT -5
So.... the consensus is that if you don't draft a pro bowl player more than once in 5 years then you suck? BTW, JJ Watt happens to be one of the best players in the NFL so that's a pretty good selection. Tell me how many of their drafted players in 5 years are still on the team making significant contributions. I'd be more interested in that statistic because John Idiotzik cut half of his 2014 draft class in their rookie season which would be something to be concerned about. This The Texans may have only drafted one pro-bowler (who happens to be the best overall player in football) over the last 5 years, but they've also drafted some key contributors. DeAndre Hopkins, D.J. Swearinger, Whitney Mercilus, Brooks Reed, Kareem Jackson, Ben Tate, Garrett Graham, etc.
They also came up with one of the biggest UDFA steals of the last 5 or so years in Arian Foster.Besides, when the hell was the last time the Jets drafted a pro-bowler? Revis? That was almost a fucking decade ago. That's actually a damn impressive list.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 8, 2015 12:22:35 GMT -5
I'm fucking tired of these cocksucking dickheads like womanish and Semeni trolling our gullible fanbase for page clicks...
Who gives a fuck about the Pro Bowl? The Texans have accumulated a lot of talent over the past 5 years. Maybe if the team had a backbone they wouldn't have layed down to NE in the playoffs 2 years in a row. That's on coaching not the FO. The Texans were good enough to win and we wouldn't be debating how many pro bowlers this guy brought to Houston....
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Post by southside on Jan 8, 2015 12:24:05 GMT -5
So.... the consensus is that if you don't draft a pro bowl player more than once in 5 years then you suck? BTW, JJ Watt happens to be one of the best players in the NFL so that's a pretty good selection. Tell me how many of their drafted players in 5 years are still on the team making significant contributions. I'd be more interested in that statistic because John Idiotzik cut half of his 2014 draft class in their rookie season which would be something to be concerned about. To be fair, Idzik drafted the best player to come from the 2013 draft so far, and that bought him exactly zero leeway with the billboard lunatics. So maybe Cimini is just putting Maccagnan in terms most Jets fans understand. And he also drafted Dee Milliner before that player... so there's that.
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Post by flushingjet on Jan 8, 2015 12:24:27 GMT -5
Who's Woodrow?
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Post by gangrene on Jan 8, 2015 13:04:48 GMT -5
Who's Woodrow? Probably referring to Woodrow Johnson current owner of the New York Titans/Jets ... or possibly Woodrow Wilson, 28th US president recently deceased (1924).
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 8, 2015 13:42:45 GMT -5
@richcimini: GM candidate Mike Maccagnan impressed Jets with cerebral approach, organizational skills, scouting system and views on running a team. #nyj
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Post by Augustiniak on Jan 8, 2015 13:58:09 GMT -5
@richcimini: GM candidate Mike Maccagnan impressed Jets with cerebral approach, organizational skills, scouting system and views on running a team. #nyj idzik did too - though he was impressing woody, not casserly and wolf.
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Post by gangrene on Jan 8, 2015 14:22:22 GMT -5
Woody is like a teenage girl easily impressed with a smoother talker, Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan left her breathless.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 8, 2015 14:28:54 GMT -5
@richcimini: GM candidate Mike Maccagnan impressed Jets with cerebral approach, organizational skills, scouting system and views on running a team. #nyj idzik did too - though he was impressing woody, not casserly and wolf. Idzik's plan would have worked if he had an eye for talent FWIW.....
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 8, 2015 14:32:47 GMT -5
idzik did too - though he was impressing woody, not casserly and wolf. Idzik's plan would have worked if he had an eye for talent FWIW..... Or at least had the right scouts, spotting it for him.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 8, 2015 14:36:40 GMT -5
Woody is like a teenage girl easily impressed with a smoother talker, Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan left her breathless. What exactly is wrong with Maccagnan? He and Kirchner have been my Top 2 choices from the start.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 14:47:52 GMT -5
Idzik's plan would have worked if he had an eye for talent FWIW..... Or at least had the right scouts, spotting it for him. For what it's worth Terry Bradway is getting bad press and may have been an average GM but was strong on Richardson, Revis and Wilkerson from things I've read. He also was really adamant about drafting Russell Wilson... The fella getting ready to play in another superbowl. See here.. www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000092313/article/russell-wilson-coveted-by-one-new-york-jets-executiveFormer New York Jets general manager Terry Bradway still oddly holds a senior personnel executive position in the team's front office. Track the rookie QBs: For the first time in league history, five rookie quarterbacks earned starting jobs. We're keeping track of their performances and progress on the field throughout the season. More ... During last year's draft season, Bradway's view on the incoming quarterback class was clear. He wanted Russell Wilson. Bradway talked about Wilson so much that the Wisconsin product was called "Russell Bradway" inside the Jets' building, defensive coordinator Mike Pettine told The Star-Ledger. The Seattle Seahawks ended up drafting Wilson 75th overall, just two spots before the Jets chose Demario Davis. It's fair to wonder if the Jets would have added Wilson to the Mark Sanchez-Tim Tebow stew if the Seahawks didn't jump on him. "We knew about him and liked him," Pettine said. "He's proving he's a complete quarterback." The story reminds us of the 2009 draft. As pointed out by ESPN.com's Mike Sando, the Seahawks were rumored to be interested in Sanchez at the time with the No. 4 overall pick, but they chose Aaron Curry instead. Curry was a bust, and yet most Seahawks fans probably are glad their team took him over Sanchez. The Wilson-Sanchez matchup Sunday just adds another layer to reunion weekend. Jets fans know that once you take a quarterback that high, you are going to roll with him for a long time.
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