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Post by maury77 on Aug 24, 2016 18:07:52 GMT -5
after "looking under the hood" some more it became apparent he may not be the prospect they thought he was prior to the draft.. Yea, but how is that possible?!?! I mean for gods sakes, how??? It's Hack! He's been exposed nationally for years. How could you possibly not know what you're looking at with him? How. HOW. Sigh. It feels like a vanity pick by Macc and Gailey. They had a very good first season and they wanted to take a reclamation project to show everyone that the staff and scouting department was really good. Whatever, Hack, so far, appears to be exactly whom many of us (myself included) thought he was. FWIW, at least Petty is coming along better than expected and, aside from Hack, it appears to be a very promising rookie class. Worst case scenario, we can bomb the season and draft Fournette.
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Post by maury77 on Aug 21, 2016 7:50:47 GMT -5
Great fight. I'm not a very big Macgregor fan, but you have to give him credit being able to beat a guy that normally fights 2 weight classes up. Macgregor was very impressive in being able to stop the takedowns.
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Post by maury77 on Aug 21, 2016 7:48:57 GMT -5
It's a good problem to have, in a way, but I'm a little worried about how we're going to handle the wide receiver position. If six active receivers make the final 53 (with Devin Smith on the PUP list), I'm hoping for Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Quincy Enunwa, Charone Peake, Jalin Marshall and Robby Anderson to be kept. The problems are that Jalin Marshall's hands have been iffy enough to justify cutting him, but, if you don't include either him or Jeremy Ross on the roster, we won't have a kick/punt returner, and our special teams will take a big hit. And all the beat writers are projecting Kenbrell Thompkins to be on the final 53. Those people are among the few who have been at every practice, so I can't dismiss their opinion, especially when they seem to think it's pretty much a given that Thompkins will be here. Since B. Marshall, Decker and Enunwa are, of course, givens, I'd rather go with the highest ceiling at the other three spots. Unless we have major injuries from that trio, the other receivers' workload would figure to be minimal, anyway. Why not go with high upside? I just looked it up. Thompkins was our No. 4 wide receiver statistically last season, finishing with 33 targets and 17 catches. He's certainly serviceable, but I'm not worried that he'll turn into a Pro Bowl receiver if we let him go. I think Peake and Anderson have high enough ceilings that they could be future NFL starters, and I think J. Marshall can contribute positively as a kick/punt returner right away. Also, although I'm a Penn State grad and a Hackenberg supporter, maybe the best way to resolve the QB roster quandary is if Hackenberg gets (ahem) injured in the final preseason game and ends up on IR. If he's the clear No. 4 this year, how many practice reps is he going to get anyway? Despite what everyone seems to be thinking right now, you don't really want to get rid of Geno, since he's the only reserve QB with any NFL playing experience. There's no question that you don't want to lose Petty, since he's improving and has already got a team-friendly contract for 2017. I may be wrong, but if they IR Hackenberg, I don't believe he can practice with the team, which wouldn't be good for his development.
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Post by maury77 on May 22, 2016 7:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by maury77 on May 8, 2016 14:06:47 GMT -5
I really hope the Jets go RB in the first round next year with all this talent available. All the guys mentioned are beasts (I love Cook).
You know what other position is loaded next year? Edge rusher:
Myles Garrett Texas A&M
Derek Barnett Tennessee
Charles Harris Missouri (he wears Sheldon's number)
Carl Lawson Auburn
Devonte Fields Louisville
Tim Williams Alabama
Even with Mauldin and Jenkins on the roster, I wouldn't mind going edge rusher with one of these guys next year and pushing Jenkins inside next to Lee.
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Post by maury77 on May 8, 2016 14:00:17 GMT -5
Even if Hackenberg stinks, if the team can eventually call Lee, Jenkins, Burris and Shell decent to good starters, it is a successful draft.
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Post by maury77 on May 8, 2016 13:48:43 GMT -5
Another point..... In working with Jordan Palmer to get ready for the pre-draft workouts, I love the fact that he prepared for the NFCCG as if he were Carson Palmer, getting ready to face Carolina that Sunday. I read that he even had conference calls with Carson a few times. It's a great introduction to the level of preparation that's needed to succeed at the next level. Just the time that is put into dissecting your opponent and working on the gameplan for that week separates the great QBs from the good ones. The article Lith posted mentioned that his preparation will determine whether he becomes a viable QB or not. I believe it, and Hack mentioned certain QBs who he idolizes (Brady, Rodgers, even Palmer).They all take their craft seriously and go the extra mile to play at a high level. If he has the same obsession, the same "eat, sleep, breathe football" mentality as the 3 QBs he mentioned, it will take him very far. Ironically enough, pre-injury Carson Palmer is probably his ceiling. But let's not get carried away just yet his floor is very, very low. That's a very good ceiling to have. Before Kimo blew up Carson's knee, he was playing like the 3rd best QB in the league besides Brady and Manning. Hackenberg reminds me a lot of Palmer, there college careers even have similar arcs.
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Post by maury77 on May 8, 2016 13:33:07 GMT -5
I'd like him (or another vet) back because I don't want to see Petty or Hack starting this year. Let these 2 kids develop. I also think Fitz may be a good mentor for Hack.
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Post by maury77 on May 1, 2016 6:08:31 GMT -5
Finally got through the 4 tapes on DB of Brandon Shell and I have mixed feelings. His 2014 tape as a RT was MUCH better than his 2015 tape as a LT. What I like: He has a prototypical build and nice long arms for the RT position, I don't see a LT at all. I think his feet are better than advertised and he's strong at the POA. He never gets pushed back and does OK with speed rushers that only run in an arc. What I don't like and unfortunately this list is longer: He is absolutely atrocious when it comes to the double move, meaning a hard outside arc followed by a swim or rip. He doesn't recognize it and can't counter it getting beat routinely and cleanly. Whenever a defender crosses his face he's left flailing for air. Looks like a penalty machine as I counted four false starts that weren't called. You don't see much second level blocks but that is the norm now and I won't fault him for that. I wish he would finish blocks better and play to the whistle, I always see him looking around at what's happening instead of punishing his man. Many throw the term waist bender around and he is the classic example of one. Overall I think he can be a player because of his size, length, and his decent feet. He is not nearly ready for game action but given where he was selected that is to be expected. He's a guy you can work with, hopefully our coaches can get the best out of him and he becomes a starter at RT in 2017. I watched his 2015 tape against Missouri and it wasn't great. However, Charles Harris, the DE from Missouri, looks like an absolute beast!
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Post by maury77 on Apr 30, 2016 17:16:42 GMT -5
Well guys, our haul is complete. Overall, a nice draft that will ultimately be judged (whether it's just or not) on passing over Lynch for Hackenberg.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 30, 2016 17:14:17 GMT -5
Nice, called it!
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Post by maury77 on Apr 30, 2016 17:07:52 GMT -5
I would like to go with Lawler or Peake next.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 30, 2016 6:46:56 GMT -5
Lots of good players left. I'd love it if the Jets were able to land Billings.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 30, 2016 6:45:52 GMT -5
The case for Hackenberg: The has everything you look for physically and mentally. His freshman tape is pretty sharp:http://draftbreakdown.com/video/christian-hackenberg-vs-wisconsin-michigan-ucf-2013-vs-vs/ After watching that Wisconsin game, you can see why some people were comparing him to Luck after his freshman year. When you watch the tape from his sophmore and junior seasons, you see a horrible offensive line and a QB that is under constant pressure. Hackenberg's mechanics became a mess. In his freshman tape, you see a guy who is moving his feet around. By the time you get to his junior tape, he is standing completely still at times (like a statute) in the pocket. I don't think that coaching staff was doing him any favors. If he can clean up his mechanics, it's bound to improve his accuracy. Hackenberg's arc for his college career reminds me a little bit of Carson Palmer: www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-palmer-1.htmlIf you remember Palmer at USC, he had a pretty good freshman year where he excited people with his tools. His sophomore and junior seasons were bad (just as bad as Hackenberg's). Then, his senior season he turned it around, won the Heisman and went #1 overall. Do I think the Jets struck gold here? Honestly, no. But I think Hackenberg has a better chance of panning out than Petty does.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 29, 2016 21:44:15 GMT -5
I really like this pick. Jenkins and Mauldin are going to be 2 absolute warriors on the outside. I think Jenkins has more potential as a pass rusher than he has shown so far. I could definitely see him starting this season.
We have a nice core of young LBs right now. In 1 year, we could be looking at Mauldin-Taiwan Jones-Lee-Jenkins.
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