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Post by Touchable on Oct 23, 2021 3:09:38 GMT -5
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Post by tkasper01 on Oct 23, 2021 5:43:30 GMT -5
He is an actor and producer. He knows how to sell bullshit. Would not be surprised if the entire thing was staged, like a scene in his movies.
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Post by cgjet on Oct 23, 2021 7:57:31 GMT -5
Agreed, but I also fully believe he knew he was being photographed here. Their profession practically requires them to be full of sh*t at all times. I wont get political but I wont minimize his negligence either. If ANYONE hands you a gun and tells you its safe, you dont take their word for it. If he couldnt be bothered to learn what a safe gun is "because its the prop-masters job" and half the crew had walked off already, f*ck him. Good point on the gun safety. Agree, 100%. Today, they are saying it was a period gun and not a prop with a live round left in it. Total negligence.
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 23, 2021 11:12:50 GMT -5
I know WTF is wrong with me cock blocking shakin when he's trying to pile on hampur style. My bad.
meh... when someone is such a massive loudmouth mega douchebag nonstop like baldwin is, fuck him literally categorized me and millions of others as terrorists for our political views, inviting (if not encouraging) violence and more against us, there's not a big enough bag of karma dicks to serve him. again, fuck him Agreed. He's a POS (assaults, horrendous things said to his daughter, the whole entitled Words with Friends thing et al) AND he's a preachy, holier-than-thou type. You really can't be both and expect to be viewed with any level of sympathy/empathy. Fuck him.
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Post by shakin on Oct 23, 2021 11:13:25 GMT -5
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Post by Big L on Oct 23, 2021 13:31:16 GMT -5
Just curious, but why would there even be live bullets on the set anywhere?
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Post by RobR on Oct 23, 2021 14:06:26 GMT -5
Just curious, but why would there even be live bullets on the set anywhere? I asked this question earlier and can't think of any reason why they would have live ammo on set. It also turns out that his stunt double fired two "live" rounds earlier in the week and the production crew was scared shit that a half dozen of them walked off the set for that and also not being paid promptly and forcing them to drive from Albuquerque instead of springing for a hotel in Santa Fe. They also held no safety meetings. Then add in that 6 hours before she was shot they brought in non union workers and kicked some of the union members off set, even with threat of arrest. All this info is from interviews with the Albuquerque Journal.
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Post by Big L on Oct 23, 2021 17:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by 32Green on Oct 23, 2021 20:39:22 GMT -5
Just curious, but why would there even be live bullets on the set anywhere? I asked this question earlier and can't think of any reason why they would have live ammo on set. It also turns out that his stunt double fired two "live" rounds earlier in the week and the production crew was scared shit that a half dozen of them walked off the set for that and also not being paid promptly and forcing them to drive from Albuquerque instead of springing for a hotel in Santa Fe. They also held no safety meetings. Then add in that 6 hours before she was shot they brought in non union workers and kicked some of the union members off set, even with threat of arrest. All this info is from interviews with the Albuquerque Journal. Sounds like what happens when you have a cornacopia of artsy libs/towny trash mixing with real guns. Still doesnt explain how Baldwin aimed his gun at another human being to begin with.
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Post by RobR on Oct 23, 2021 21:57:19 GMT -5
I asked this question earlier and can't think of any reason why they would have live ammo on set. It also turns out that his stunt double fired two "live" rounds earlier in the week and the production crew was scared shit that a half dozen of them walked off the set for that and also not being paid promptly and forcing them to drive from Albuquerque instead of springing for a hotel in Santa Fe. They also held no safety meetings. Then add in that 6 hours before she was shot they brought in non union workers and kicked some of the union members off set, even with threat of arrest. All this info is from interviews with the Albuquerque Journal. Sounds like what happens when you have a cornacopia of artsy libs/towny trash mixing with real guns. Still doesnt explain how Baldwin aimed his gun at another human being to begin with. They're going to blame it on the libtard that was supposed to be a qualified armorer. Truth is Baldwin is a giant piece of shit working on a low budget film that cut corners every single way they could. Can't wait to see the date of hire on his armorer and her qualifications.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Oct 24, 2021 2:19:22 GMT -5
I asked this question earlier and can't think of any reason why they would have live ammo on set. It also turns out that his stunt double fired two "live" rounds earlier in the week and the production crew was scared shit that a half dozen of them walked off the set for that and also not being paid promptly and forcing them to drive from Albuquerque instead of springing for a hotel in Santa Fe. They also held no safety meetings. Then add in that 6 hours before she was shot they brought in non union workers and kicked some of the union members off set, even with threat of arrest. All this info is from interviews with the Albuquerque Journal. Sounds like what happens when you have a cornacopia of artsy libs/towny trash mixing with real guns. Still doesnt explain how Baldwin aimed his gun at another human being to begin with. Report says the accident happened while shooting a scene. Is it possible he was supposed to shoot at a character that was in the vicinity of where the 2crew members were?
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Post by Big L on Oct 24, 2021 2:54:26 GMT -5
Sounds like what happens when you have a cornacopia of artsy libs/towny trash mixing with real guns. Still doesnt explain how Baldwin aimed his gun at another human being to begin with. Report says the accident happened while shooting a scene. Is it possible he was supposed to shoot at a character that was in the vicinity of where the 2crew members were? Or the scene was thru the character being shots view so AB would have been shooting at the camera, which could have had the victim standing close to the camera .
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Post by 32Green on Oct 24, 2021 11:14:51 GMT -5
Sounds like what happens when you have a cornacopia of artsy libs/towny trash mixing with real guns. Still doesnt explain how Baldwin aimed his gun at another human being to begin with. Report says the accident happened while shooting a scene. Is it possible he was supposed to shoot at a character that was in the vicinity of where the 2crew members were? Report says the accident happened while shooting a scene. Is it possible he was supposed to shoot at a character that was in the vicinity of where the 2crew members were? Or the scene was thru the character being shots view so AB would have been shooting at the camera, which could have had the victim standing close to the camera . Who knows? I tend to believe anything we're hearing now is all damage control type stuff.
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Post by 32Green on Oct 24, 2021 11:28:42 GMT -5
Report says the accident happened while shooting a scene. Is it possible he was supposed to shoot at a character that was in the vicinity of where the 2crew members were? Or the scene was thru the character being shots view so AB would have been shooting at the camera, which could have had the victim standing close to the camera . www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10124917/Gun-went-Alec-Baldwins-hands-killed-Halyna-Hutchins-used-target-practice.htmlLooks like Big L nailed it; Also, apparently the crew had been using the same pistol for off-the-set target practice with live ammo and that the live ammo was kept with the blanks. Mix that with a dumb inexperienced kid with a history of fuck-ups being charged with ensuring its safety, a clueless self-absorbed actor who doesnt have the common sense to double check the gun... and here we are.
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Post by Big L on Oct 24, 2021 14:05:37 GMT -5
Or the scene was thru the character being shots view so AB would have been shooting at the camera, which could have had the victim standing close to the camera . www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10124917/Gun-went-Alec-Baldwins-hands-killed-Halyna-Hutchins-used-target-practice.htmlLooks like Big L nailed it; Also, apparently the crew had been using the same pistol for off-the-set target practice with live ammo and that the live ammo was kept with the blanks. Mix that with a dumb inexperienced kid with a history of fuck-ups being charged with ensuring its safety, a clueless self-absorbed actor who doesnt have the common sense to double check the gun... and here we are. Yikes. A comedy of errors. SMH Sounds like the Wild West safety of Wild West movie
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