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Post by BEAC0NJET on Dec 5, 2014 13:11:10 GMT -5
This guy had apparently been a repeat offender so I dont think there was any "couldnt believe it" sort of thing going on. And yeah, drugs are more important to bust than illegal cigs, but blame the politicians and the bosses, not the beat cops. Follow the money, the guys on the street are focusing where they are told to. I'm pretty sure civilized people as a whole has tossed the "I was only following orders" defense out the window, back about 1946 in a little town called Nuremberg. Fair enough. My point was more that our elected officials made things illegal, and its the beat cops job to enforce those laws on the streets. We don't like it, we vote in new officials and change the laws. Until then, blaming a cop for doing his job, when hes told to bust guys selling loosies, isn't all that fair. And thats the point Ive heard raised, that Garner was involved in a minor crime that they should look the other way. |
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Post by wallstreet on Dec 5, 2014 15:14:07 GMT -5
Once l o l. I had a helicopter land in my backyard and tear gas shot through the windows while i was eating fruity pebbles after a bad hangover, and even then i went for the escape arrest achievement. Ok Rags I need to hear this story asap |
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Post by Anthony Jet on Dec 5, 2014 20:08:15 GMT -5
Probably 99.99999% Not sure what you mean by "justified in his actions". I don't think he was trying to kill the guy if that is what you mean. I don't think anybody is happy the guy is dead but we understand how these things can happen when you put yourself in danger. I'm sure he wasn't either, but he did, and he should face the appropriate criminal charges for it. the guy being overweight and whatever other medical ailments he may have had played a major part in the final outcome. |
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Post by Anthony Jet on Dec 5, 2014 20:18:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure civilized people as a whole has tossed the "I was only following orders" defense out the window, back about 1946 in a little town called Nuremberg. Fair enough. My point was more that our elected officials made things illegal, and its the beat cops job to enforce those laws on the streets. We don't like it, we vote in new officials and change the laws. Until then, blaming a cop for doing his job, when hes told to bust guys selling loosies, isn't all that fair. And thats the point Ive heard raised, that Garner was involved in a minor crime that they should look the other way. he was selling ILLEGAL smokes, whether Its a big deal or not is irrelevant, they are illegal and there are consequences for participating in illegal activities, whether you agree with the consequences or not you must respect the law in civilized societies |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 5, 2014 22:11:13 GMT -5
Once l o l. I had a helicopter land in my backyard and tear gas shot through the windows while i was eating fruity pebbles after a bad hangover, and even then i went for the escape arrest achievement. I'm not going to apologize for being smart enough for only being caught once, numbnuts. Shutup. Pussy. |
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Post by flushingjet on Dec 5, 2014 22:26:48 GMT -5
I was arrested once. (The case was dismissed.) When I was arrested the LAST thing ever on my mind was to resist. I knew it was foolish and a way to guarantee further trouble. I really don't understand the mindset of anyone resisting arrest. What kind of outcome do they imagine? Maybe you are mad...but its a very simple decision. But I know I didn't live the life this guy did, his experiences are VERY different from mine. Maybe he had had enough, felt he was harassed because of being black. If so, I can understand the outrage. But he has to know better. He just has to. Look, I wish the guy wasn't killed. I saw his Mom on TV...heartbreaking stuff. But what are we going to do...train cops to subdue suspects gently? Its a shit job that someone has to do and its violent and dirty. Once it gets nasty all bets are off. Once l o l. I had a helicopter land in my backyard and tear gas shot through the windows while i was eating fruity pebbles after a bad hangover, and even then i went for the escape arrest achievement. This is fascinating, one moment you are feeling the combined comfort of a favorite childhood cereal and the Ballbathering relief of milk coating your stomach and negating the effects of overindulgence...then the next you're on a war footing. Your life is flashing before your eyes and you wonder how things could have been different - like reaching for the cocoa pebbles instead. I'd like to hear more, why this went down |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 5, 2014 23:00:02 GMT -5
Once l o l. I had a helicopter land in my backyard and tear gas shot through the windows while i was eating fruity pebbles after a bad hangover, and even then i went for the escape arrest achievement. Ok Rags I need to hear this story asap Once l o l. I had a helicopter land in my backyard and tear gas shot through the windows while i was eating fruity pebbles after a bad hangover, and even then i went for the escape arrest achievement. This is fascinating, one moment you are feeling the combined comfort of a favorite childhood cereal and the Ballbathering relief of milk coating your stomach and negating the effects of overindulgence...then the next you're on a war footing. Your life is flashing before your eyes and you wonder how things could have been different - like reaching for the cocoa pebbles instead. I'd like to hear more, why this went down I lived on a cul de sac in a gulf coast part of Florida. I was at that time well on the dea ,cobra unit sheriffs dept, and somehow the atf check list. Anyhow a friend of mine a real down south good ol boy named ted nugent lived two houses down from me. He was a fun great guy and what started as a yankee vs redneck thing became a friendship. Anyhow i had my thing that annoyed the criminal justice system and ted nugent had his. I was much safer then ted nugent he really didn't give a shit and freely had weed everywhere. We lived on the inlets that lead to the bay that lead to the ocean. ted nugent and his father had been living there 50 years and had every spec of inlet small islands growing with an abundance of greenhouse weed. Also quite a few greenhouses scattered about elsewhere. Anyhow me and ted nugent had no business dealings whatsoever maybe a few things that he knew and that he helped me with and me him but professionally totally separate just good friends. His wife left him her brother had been picked up working for ted nugent and was facing some hard time, so his wife to save her brother ratted me out that wouldnt fly they needed someone closer they told her to rat out ted nugent and when he was busted they would offer him a deal. ted came to my house one morning upset i knew over his wife leaving but said little else. Told me he was having some serious problems could he store about 4 pallets of weed in my cyderblock boat shed out back that i didn't use because i had no boat for just a day or two until the shit with his in laws and people around his property that he didnt trust died down i said sure. The next morning helicopter lands in my yard his yard and about 14 trucks jeeps cars guys in full gear masks come through the doors. F i thought make it to the inlet Why you ask make them catch you make them work for it was my motto. I knew i had nowhere to go but still give it some effort. Anyhow teddy boy nugent put that in my boat shed with no idea this was going down the wife overheard it and called the source. I didnt believe it no way. I did believe it when sitting in court for a year and listening to ted nugent say Humphrey Bogart had no idea, he told me i could put my sand and concrete bags in there because i was going away for a few days and some assholes had been robbing construction equipment out of my yard. They grilled teddy boy for a year, put his wife in front of him his kids his life, all he had to do was point and say whatever they wanted him too about Humphrey Bogart. Hes doing 30 years instead i see him 2 a year and I love him like a brother. This story is for illustration purposes only and no one either Humphrey Bogart or teddy bear boy ever had any such conversation about weed or anything else. Also Bogart almost made it to the bay when a dea boat ran him ashore |
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 6, 2014 7:51:54 GMT -5
Been telling you for a while now that you need to write a book ragu. Or at least a fucking blog.
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Post by wesleymctoon on Dec 6, 2014 7:58:55 GMT -5
I lived on a cul de sac in a gulf coast part of Florida. I was at that time well on the dea ,cobra unit sheriffs dept, and somehow the atf. Anyhow a friend of mine a real down south good ol boy named ted nugent lived two houses down from me. He was a fun great guy and what started as a yankee vs redneck thing became a friendship. Anyhow i had my thing that annoyed the criminal justice system and ted nugent had his. I was much safer then ted nugent he really didn't give a shit and freely had weed everywhere. We lived on the inlets that lead to the bay that lead to the ocean. ted nugent and his father had been living there 50 years and had every spec of inlet small islands growing with an abundance of greenhouse weed. Also quite a few greenhouses scattered about elsewhere. Anyhow me and ted nugent had no business dealings whatsoever maybe a few things that he knew and that he helped me with and me him but professionally totally separate just good friends. His wife left him her brother had been picked up working for ted nugent and was facing some hard time, so his wife to save her brother ratted me out that wouldnt fly they needed someone closer they told her to rat out ted nugent and when he was busted they would offer him a deal. ted came to my house one morning upset i knew over his wife leaving but said little else. Told me he was having some serious problems could he store about 4 pallets of weed in my cyderblock boat shed out back that i didn't use because i had no boat for just a day or two until the shit with his in laws and people around his property that he didnt trust died down i said sure. The next morning helicopter lands in my yard his yard and about 14 trucks jeeps cars guys in full gear masks come through the doors. F i thought make it to the inlet Why you ask make them catch you make them work for it was my motto. I knew i had nowhere to go but still give it some effort. Anyhow teddy boy nugent put that in my boat shed with no idea this was going down the wife overheard it and called the source. I didnt believe it no way. I did believe it when sitting in court for a year and listening to ted nugent say Humphrey Bogart had no idea, he told me i could put my sand and concrete bags in there because i was going away for a few days and some assholes had been robbing construction equipment out of my yard. They grilled teddy boy for a year, put his wife in front of him his kids his life, all he had to do was point and say whatever they wanted him too about Humphrey Bogart. Hes doing 30 years instead i see him 2 a year and I love him like a brother. This story is for illustration purposes only and no one either Humphrey Bogart or teddy bear boy ever had any such conversation about weed or anything else. Also Bogart almost made it to the bay when a dea boat ran him ashore I have no idea what this is, but it sounds awesome |
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 7, 2014 12:27:06 GMT -5
I'm not going to apologize for being smart enough for only being caught once, numbnuts. Shutup. Pussy. Blow me Sally |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 7, 2014 12:30:40 GMT -5
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Post by Flushing Roots on Dec 8, 2014 8:20:41 GMT -5
NY Post today...
Eric Garner's wife came out and stated it was not a "black and white" thing.
I guess now Reverend Al can call off his march on Washington and Eric Holder can call off the civil rights investigation.
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Post by PK on Dec 8, 2014 9:19:14 GMT -5
NY Post today... Eric Garner's wife came out and stated it was not a "black and white" thing. I guess now Reverend Al can call off his march on Washington and Eric Holder can call off the civil rights investigation.  |
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Post by flushingjet on Dec 8, 2014 9:53:41 GMT -5
Ok Rags I need to hear this story asap This is fascinating, one moment you are feeling the combined comfort of a favorite childhood cereal and the Ballbathering relief of milk coating your stomach and negating the effects of overindulgence...then the next you're on a war footing. Your life is flashing before your eyes and you wonder how things could have been different - like reaching for the cocoa pebbles instead. I'd like to hear more, why this went down I lived on a cul de sac in a gulf coast part of Florida. I was at that time well on the dea ,cobra unit sheriffs dept, and somehow the atf check list. Anyhow a friend of mine a real down south good ol boy named ted nugent lived two houses down from me. He was a fun great guy and what started as a yankee vs redneck thing became a friendship. Anyhow i had my thing that annoyed the criminal justice system and ted nugent had his. I was much safer then ted nugent he really didn't give a shit and freely had weed everywhere. We lived on the inlets that lead to the bay that lead to the ocean. ted nugent and his father had been living there 50 years and had every spec of inlet small islands growing with an abundance of greenhouse weed. Also quite a few greenhouses scattered about elsewhere. Anyhow me and ted nugent had no business dealings whatsoever maybe a few things that he knew and that he helped me with and me him but professionally totally separate just good friends. His wife left him her brother had been picked up working for ted nugent and was facing some hard time, so his wife to save her brother ratted me out that wouldnt fly they needed someone closer they told her to rat out ted nugent and when he was busted they would offer him a deal. ted came to my house one morning upset i knew over his wife leaving but said little else. Told me he was having some serious problems could he store about 4 pallets of weed in my cyderblock boat shed out back that i didn't use because i had no boat for just a day or two until the shit with his in laws and people around his property that he didnt trust died down i said sure. The next morning helicopter lands in my yard his yard and about 14 trucks jeeps cars guys in full gear masks come through the doors. F i thought make it to the inlet Why you ask make them catch you make them work for it was my motto. I knew i had nowhere to go but still give it some effort. Anyhow teddy boy nugent put that in my boat shed with no idea this was going down the wife overheard it and called the source. I didnt believe it no way. I did believe it when sitting in court for a year and listening to ted nugent say Humphrey Bogart had no idea, he told me i could put my sand and concrete bags in there because i was going away for a few days and some assholes had been robbing construction equipment out of my yard. They grilled teddy boy for a year, put his wife in front of him his kids his life, all he had to do was point and say whatever they wanted him too about Humphrey Bogart. Hes doing 30 years instead i see him 2 a year and I love him like a brother. This story is for illustration purposes only and no one either Humphrey Bogart or teddy bear boy ever had any such conversation about weed or anything else. Also Bogart almost made it to the bay when a dea boat ran him ashore well i am sorry for any unintended consequences real or imagined. reminds me of when my brother was working as a paralegal for a lawyer in s. fla the lawyer who used to fly as a hobby was gettin' unhitched and was worried about seein his kids. took the kids for a flight never came back. found a plane no people. brother was grilled by johnny law like a pompano blue plate special. |
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Post by quantum on Dec 8, 2014 13:58:17 GMT -5
This guy had apparently been a repeat offender so I dont think there was any "couldnt believe it" sort of thing going on. And yeah, drugs are more important to bust than illegal cigs, but blame the politicians and the bosses, not the beat cops. Follow the money, the guys on the street are focusing where they are told to. I'm pretty sure civilized people as a whole has tossed the "I was only following orders" defense out the window, back about 1946 in a little town called Nuremberg. well I'm pretty sure that only works for serious shit like...oh i don't know... G.ENOCIDE. (just noticed you can't spell G.enocide without G.ENO. Definitely not a coincidence...  ) |
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