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Post by Paradis on Feb 10, 2017 12:55:52 GMT -5
i'll take my perennial loser franchise, the cleveland browns. I love showing my father what his draft should have looked like...
Also, I've never drafted for the Jets in all our drafts. Can I scratch that one of my bucketlist this year?
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:55:54 GMT -5
I see now... This year already has that guy in Jake Butt, but Mike's more dynamic downfield threat from what I remember. Still... Have you seen Everett? Between him, Howard, Sprinkle and Engram... talk about the future. I have not seen Everett but I think Gesicki is a much better prospect than Jake Butt, not even close. Butt is criminally overrated athletically and his injury will push him down even further. Not a fan. I love Howard, really like Sprinkle, and I don't think Engram fits this offense because he's a big WR and we already have that in Enunwa.. Honestly, I don't care about Butt much. He's a plodder. A lesser Witten.... I think Engram can play on any team. The team has to commit to having Enunwa at X or Z... he's not a true Hback/joker TE. Engram is IMO.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:55:06 GMT -5
I hear you. I've been trumpeting that choir boys don't win superbowls... but there's something about a fucking ghetto entourage following him around that rubs me the wrong way. Kid's already thuggish to be begin with, now we gotta draft him, and his 5 homies? tell them to fuck off Dalvin. The great debate on a great player. I love his college tape....serious boner pants. he's the best player in the draft, on the field. Yea i said it.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:46:28 GMT -5
If all things were equal, I'll take Dalvin Cook every time over Fournette for reasons i've already labored over. I hated what I read about him recently; the gangster shite, droppin' bombs in wombs... sigh. That's half the NFL. I care about their football drive and commitment. He proved that during his bowl game. Yes, he came in a little over weight, but if you get him babysitter and have him sit down with a few ex athletes I don't think that's a problem. Hell Cro had a million kids but once he came to the Jets he started driving a Prius and can now pay for all their college tuition's' while living comfortably. Unfortunately his vasectomy didn't take haha. I hear you. I've been trumpeting that choir boys don't win superbowls... but there's something about a fucking ghetto entourage following him around that rubs me the wrong way. Kid's already thuggish to be begin with, now we gotta draft him, and his 5 homies? tell them to fuck off Dalvin.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:44:08 GMT -5
He's also good, but I just saw the kid I was talking about is going back to school too. His name is Adam Breneman he's 6'4 252 and has good speed and is a decent blocker. He had 70 REC, 808 YDS, and 8 TDs this year. The guy I mentioned is a Heath Miller clone. He can do it all with a great catch radius, also owns every PSU record for a TE with terrific size. I see now... This year already has that guy in Jake Butt, but Mike's more dynamic downfield threat from what I remember. Still... Have you seen Everett? Between him, Howard, Sprinkle and Engram... talk about the future.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:33:57 GMT -5
It's an interesting part of Fournette's game you've flagged. hadn't noticed that till now... It's definitely the difference (possibly) that allowed Peterson to get to the second level with such ease at times. Fournette can get stymied back there and disappear. On the other hand, I was impressed with Fournette's agility at full speed when i took the time to watch him recently. His vision/instincts are pretty impressive. He can manipulate a DB or LB that's still 5 yards away. Oh he's great once he gets past the OL, but I don't think he's that great at manipulating defenders. He just takes a ton of baby steps before he gets to the defender so he can drive through them. If he times it right he lowers his shoulder and runs over them or stiff arms them. He won't be able to do that as much at the next level, but it will still probably happen a bit. That's why I think he'll be good, but I don't see AP. If all things were equal, I'll take Dalvin Cook every time over Fournette for reasons i've already labored over. I hated what I read about him recently; the gangster shite, droppin' bombs in wombs... sigh.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:24:12 GMT -5
not eligible i thought. Eitherway, smart play on his part. It's a crowded house. He's eligible. who we talking about
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:15:16 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year. not eligible i thought. Eitherway, smart play on his part. It's a crowded house.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:14:33 GMT -5
Gangin' up on me, hey bastards. Best TE class ever, and you think i was gonna let that slip by with megaphone? Been a busy week. I'll be getting into some of this soon. Also, I've been trying to attract some of the more scholarly posters from elsewhere to contribute. Your welcome. It is a very beastly TE class. Watch Njoku already! You still need to watch the UMass kid and a few others. Njoku is next man up... Who's the Umass kid? Quite frankly, there's that many jobs open in the NFL to accommodate this class. The Wes Saxtons, Mycole Pruitts, Ben Brauneckers this year are going to be up against the wall.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:10:49 GMT -5
Eh I meant stud athlete as in speed and weight combo, but then he's missing the wiggle that would make him AP. Also the vision. Once he gets up to his top speed and hits the second level he's a elite, but behind the line of scrimmage he's avg. Look at how AP drops his hips and then accelerates. I don't see that with Fournette. That's why I'm super interested in his combine. Especially the cone drills. It's an interesting part of Fournette's game you've flagged. hadn't noticed that till now... It's definitely the difference (possibly) that allowed Peterson to get to the second level with such ease at times. Fournette can get stymied back there and disappear. On the other hand, I was impressed with Fournette's agility at full speed when i took the time to watch him recently. His vision/instincts are pretty impressive. He can manipulate a DB or LB that's still 5 yards away.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 22:57:25 GMT -5
Gangin' up on me, hey bastards. Best TE class ever, and you think i was gonna let that slip by without using my megaphone?
Been a busy week. I'll be getting into some of this soon. Also, I've been trying to attract some of the more scholarly posters from elsewhere to contribute. Your welcome.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 22:53:33 GMT -5
Is there a wow factor anywhere in his game? Can he "lead" a line?...
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 22:52:17 GMT -5
The answer is obviously Fournette (to OP's question) for a multitude of reasons, most already mentioned. Is it a good offer? Cause Cook/Williams are both A-list options if we move back and collect picks. Corey Davis is closing the gap everytime I watch him as well. Corey Davis is legit. He reminds me of Javon Walker. He's fast, but it's deceptive cause he has long legs. He's also one of the best route runners in this draft. Him and Mike Williams are 1a and 1B. Very much so. He's doing things at 6'3 that you don't typically see. Fitzgerald-esque
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 22:46:25 GMT -5
The answer is obviously Fournette (to OP's question) for a multitude of reasons, most already mentioned. What is MOST interesting to me, is what shoudl the Jets do if Fournette, a top QB, Adams, Barnette, etc. are on the board and the Jets get a trade offer to move down. What then? Is it a good offer? Cause Cook/Williams are both A-list options if we move back and collect picks. Corey Davis is closing the gap everytime I watch him as well.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 0:33:25 GMT -5
Gerald Everett
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