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Post by Paradis on Feb 8, 2017 20:14:07 GMT -5
Being that I'm a well known TE homer, and a soft spot for South Alabama, I held off on Everett for a bit... saw his name as a potential round 1 pick recently and decided dive in...
Jeeeeeeezus. This guy is legit. Instantly top 3... Maybe the best receiver next to Engram?
-He moves like a WR -natural pass catcher -has no problem tracking the ball in traffic -willing blocker, though not stout. -plays physical at the LOS.
He looks like a supersized Hernandez out there.
Howard Everett Engram Njoku (barely watched him thus far) Sprinkle Butt Hodges
All of them look like NFL playmakers.
More work to do on Leggett, Saubert and Smith.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2017 21:19:44 GMT -5
100% right
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2017 0:22:00 GMT -5
My last post (at least for now) on the subject -- There are plays that flash here or there. I've seen them, even just now when i revisited the LA Tech game. I"m not talking about the rainbow-6 plays, there's a couple good reads and throws... but the fact that almost no one has come up to bat and pointed them out tells me that a big part of this lovefest is based on raw infatuation. And that's not enough with a guy like that.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2017 0:04:04 GMT -5
This regime has to understand they've burned their "dart throw" QB picks. Another fuckshow like Mahomes serves only to tell the world they have no idea what they hell they're doing. If it's not #1 overall quality, GTFO... *ftr i wish mahomes the best, maybe he can develop into something. Just do it somewhere else. So every qb has to come out the gate like tom fuckin Brady , Peyton and luck? Apparently -- didn't you just slam Lynch for not winning a fucking Lombardi in his rookie year?
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 22:32:21 GMT -5
Sink or swim with Hack, Petty This is what should happen -- but for obvious reasons, I'm not holding my breath. Despite a bunch RayRay Jet fans who continue to act like Mac is the second coming of Ted Thompson, I'm sure in real life he knows the lack of success at QB is catching up with him. If he went ahead with just those two QBs, and they predictably faceplant (hard), would you let him pick our future in 2018? Would you trust his judgement?.. I hope I'm wrong, but the smart money says he's try to cover his ass with something this year at QB. Dunno what, but something. (now if he did actually have the balls to field a team with just Petty and Hackenberg, that would actually earn some points with me and probably another year)
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 22:07:20 GMT -5
I honestly couldn't care less about wasting picks on any more of these project, mid-round QB's in the hopes of finding the next Dak Prescott or something. Build up the foundation of the team through the draft and FA this year and if Hackenberg falls flat on his face, do what it takes to land a Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen or Luke Falk next year. This regime has to understand they've burned their "dart throw" QB picks. Another fuckshow like Mahomes serves only to tell the world they have no idea what they hell they're doing. If it's not #1 overall quality, GTFO... *ftr i wish mahomes the best, maybe he can develop into something. Just do it somewhere else.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 22:00:35 GMT -5
Who do you guys want to take a look at next? We can do mid round guys as well. How about OSU's Curtis Samuel... Is he WR? a RB? Percy Harvin??... Given our GM's propensity for Buckeyes, it's probably worth a sniff.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 21:53:26 GMT -5
but i don't see the burst I've seen it and it normally happens when he's standing up. Hes not the greatest athlete and the combine will confirm that, but he can get off the line pretty good when asked to. If you watch his tape the lack of burst definitely revolves around the scheme and what his coaches asked of him. He also drops into a zone coverage quite often but doesn't look well versed in it. If he's there in the second he should be a consideration. I'll have to go back and watch more. I wrote that on the heels of what i remember from comparing him to McKinley. Maury threw an interesting name out there, Sheldon Richardson. I mos def remember not seeing the athleticism when I watched him, then suddenly he's out there in green and white moving around like a Gibbon.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 21:23:57 GMT -5
I like his strength/technique and ability to dominate at the LOS, but i don't see the burst or endurance to imagine him chasing a QB around in the NFL. Would it be far to say the opposite of Shane Ray? Ray was all motor and relentless pursuit, but he was never going to put a Tackle on his ass.
Less athletic Chris Long?
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 21:16:32 GMT -5
Couple things; The Dak comparison is lazy. They share little. Secondly, for all the love Mahomes gets from people (like yourself), almost none of you point to anything of substance. It's the same grocery list of vague accolades, while you gush over some intangible NFL expectations. None of you Mahomesalites point a game and break down where the NFL throws are. Where the play is that Mahomes push a ball passed coverage. Made a read that didn't consist of scrambling for 20 minutes until a DB finally fell down. "Shown improvement"... really? explain. "there's a vid of him throw 65 yards on his knees".... seen it, in 2007 via a guy named Jamarcus Russell. "he can really scramble".... yes. cause that's a measure of success in the NFL "work the pocket really well".... opposite monday? He can't work a can opener, let a lone a pocket. he gets flushed out by phantom pass rushers virtually every 3rd play. In fact, as soon has his 1st read isn't open, the happy feet start. Way too much lusting for a highlight rainbow throws on broken coverages. Weren't you the guy who was all over lynchs knob last year ? How is he doing ? The guy is trash , I guarantee this kid will be a better pro than lynch . His footwork can improve its all on the player, if he shows that he's capable you take him , he's the best talent out of the bunch , and when I mentioned he improved each year , I meant statistically. Also who wouldn't run around in the pocket to save themselves behind a Texas tech o line? A sign a great argument; 1-- start with a " yea, but you...." statement. Nothing like opening a reply by saying Lynch sucks... a guy who's played 3 games and won 1. 2-- My favorite -- hey!! here's Mahomes who needs to work on his footwork and be developed! ...but hey!! Lynch sucks cause of his poor footwork and he didn't develop in 6 months!! Come at me when you're ready to have a discussion with some substance, instead of acting like a 13 year old chick. You can start by telling ALL of us why Lynch was looked at as a round 1 prospect by NFL scouts and Mahomes needs blowhards to convince the public he's a round 2 guy with upside.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 20:20:56 GMT -5
awesome
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 18:49:08 GMT -5
I would be happy with either one - Williams or Fournette. A legit, home grown, 1st round, offensive playmaker. It has been way too long. As a reflection of last night's collapse, sometimes a running game is all you need. It's unfortunate Shanny didn't feel more confident in Freeman's ability to gain tough yards. 5 rushing plays in the 2nd half when you're up 3 scores is inexcusable. I know if we had Fournette on our team, we'd be grinding that clock out - which is a lost art today it seems.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 18:43:37 GMT -5
Best qb in draft , this years Prescott, he could really scramble and work the pocket really well. All he needs to improve on is footwork mechanics, but the guy can still launch the ball 65 plus off his back foot. There's a vid of him throwing 65 - 70 yards on his knees. He's also great off the field. He's also shown improvement from his soph. Year to now. This guy is going in the 1st, he's gonna have a great pro day and combine I guarantee it. Couple things; The Dak comparison is lazy. They share little. Secondly, for all the love Mahomes gets from people (like yourself), almost none of you point to anything of substance. It's the same grocery list of vague accolades, while you gush over some intangible NFL expectations. None of you Mahomesalites point a game and break down where the NFL throws are. Where the play is that Mahomes push a ball passed coverage. Made a read that didn't consist of scrambling for 20 minutes until a DB finally fell down. "Shown improvement"... really? explain. "there's a vid of him throw 65 yards on his knees".... seen it, in 2007 via a guy named Jamarcus Russell. "he can really scramble".... yes. cause that's a measure of success in the NFL "work the pocket really well".... opposite monday? He can't work a can opener, let a lone a pocket. he gets flushed out by phantom pass rushers virtually every 3rd play. In fact, as soon has his 1st read isn't open, the happy feet start. Way too much lusting for a highlight rainbow throws on broken coverages.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 6, 2017 11:18:44 GMT -5
Best qb in this class. Best arm , best off field person, highest upside . Has great size and He reminds me of rodgers in the way he scrambles and works the pocket to keep plays alive . We need this guy , he's gone in the first round . Lynch was taken in first this guy as hell will be. I really want cook / fournette at 6 and some way some how get Mahomes , trade this years second and next years and the year after that. Our 2nd picks are cursed anyway totally disagree, but besides that - this belongs in the draft forum. Get with the fcking program!
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Post by Paradis on Feb 5, 2017 22:45:33 GMT -5
Just accept it. At least then, it legitimates the last 15 years of rape
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