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Post by Paradis on Feb 5, 2017 12:44:12 GMT -5
As the days continue to pass, I'm falling for Fournette more and more. as I have with Mike Williams. Sec's endorsement of him as a legit one had me obsessing over his highlights the past few days. Fournette is tempting... believe me! But Williams would complete me. As a guy who had Mike Williams as my avatar for all of the 2015 season, believe me - you're preaching to the choir. I will lose zero nanoseconds of sleep if he's the pick. I (like 3/4 of us) have been clamouring for a home grown Calvin Johnson for a decade.... with all that said, Fournette is a special talent, and all things being equal, is probably more rare specimen.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 5, 2017 12:42:17 GMT -5
As the days continue to pass, I'm falling for Fournette more and more. Cook at 6 was going to be a tough sell, and now with the murmurs of ongoing character concerns, it's just not worth it. Not when Leo the 2nd is available. Lord you can bless our offense? Show some mercy I respect everybody's opinion on this board. It does strike me as strange that alot of the most knowledgeable people on this board want to draft a running back, when that was the least of our problems. If we draft offense in the 1st round, it would have to be Howard. To me, that would make much more sense. BPA, hopefully with an eye on offense. Fournette is clearly the BPA when everything on/off the field is factored in. Cook, Williams, Howard are all right there, bringing up the rear. "Least of our problems" - our running game? If Powell hadn't gone off in half a dozen games, the Jets would have been unwatcheable... But remember, Powell almost 30 and has never been able to stay healthy when he touches the rock 15+ times a game.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 3, 2017 14:09:14 GMT -5
As the days continue to pass, I'm falling for Fournette more and more. Cook at 6 was going to be a tough sell, and now with the murmurs of ongoing character concerns, it's just not worth it. Not when Leo the 2nd is available.
Lord you can bless our offense? Show some mercy
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Post by Paradis on Feb 3, 2017 11:18:31 GMT -5
The argument about Lynch vs Mahomes came up, with many stating "how much better" of a prospect Mahomes is... which IMO is obviously stupid. There's a reason why Lynch was always looked at as Rnd 1 guy, while a guy like a Mahomes needs a lawyer to plead the 2nd. It's actually a nice little case study that illustrates what NFL teams look for:
--Neither player had(have) anything resembling NFL footwork, pro-QB mechanics or ready to face on NFL defense; their respective schemes just didn't prepare them.
--Why was Lynch always in the conversation as a 1st round pick? cause he made NFL throws. He drove the ball into windows that NFL QBs do. his touch, ball placement, anticipation, and ability to find the coverage he wanted made him that pick. Right or wrong that's why.
--Mahomes has shown little in that department.. He doesn't put the ball in NFL places, at NFL speeds, against NFL coverage. He just doesn't, and that's why he's been a middle round guy, and he'll probably continue to be in that conversation.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 2, 2017 21:23:17 GMT -5
I'll start off and remember I'm only going off of one tape, 2016 OU game. Pros: Big athletic kid Big arm Some plays I see a little Big Ben.....that's it for the pros. Cons: Funky motion that looks slow and low Footwork is horrible Downfield accuracy was non existent, all over the place Has a terrible habit of going backwards when he feels pressure Where are the tight window throws? He will go through progressions somewhat but he locks on the first one for a long time Bad accuracy down the sidelines Almost all of his completions in that game were swing passes to the RB or a quick hitting slant Accuracy is a huge issue, even in the intermediate area. Overall: Another giant project I want no part of. He'll probably be overdrafted just like every other QB but I see a 4th-5th round talent. Thank god someone else is seeing what I see. You wouldn't believe the legion of zealots over at JN who believe he's going to be taken in the top 10, possibly worth a look at #6. I rewatched the LSU and OKL games, and I came away completely uninspired. -few (if any) NFL throws. -Footwork is nonexistent -Totally unable to come off his first read. Scrambles for no reason. -Does not push the ball into coverage in a place where the WR can make a play -all of his downfield throws are busted coverages or the occasional touch base on a flag route. -Has an arm, but i don't see him use it effectively other than just heaving it on seam routes. -Accuracy plummets when the first guy isn't open. -no pocket presence. - No anticipation. Those big out route rainbows he throws with a nice touch are deceiving and (I think) tricking people into believing he can read a defense and anticipate ball placement.. but the timing? He's waiting until coverage basically trails the WR. The balls needs to come quick and accurately -- and i don't see any of that unless it's on a quick slant/drag... a throw that just about anyone in college should be making. To be fair, he's just doesn't look refined. I wouldn't say impossible that he can developed, but Bryce Petty is a good comparison what that might look like. Patient, arm strength, confident, and hot and cold touch... but the NFL requires so much more.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 2, 2017 13:48:34 GMT -5
He's going to be the pre draft darling at the QB position that no one is really talking about right now. I think it's already started. At least at our level. I've got some pretty strong feelings but I'll save that for the thread
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Post by Paradis on Feb 2, 2017 11:26:54 GMT -5
Any player you guys want me to post next? Mahomes. It's time.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 2, 2017 11:26:22 GMT -5
Thanks for heads up. What other signings do you think we ought to be aware of? Harris at bama is all I know. And some qb Miami signed. How about my gators. Lacklustre signings on O lately. All that matters is how you finish and the Gators finished strong. Creeping into the top 10 range after starting the day in the mid 20's. Cant complain. The 5 stars continue to be elusive and that has to change but a promising day none the less for the Gators getting help on both sides of the ball. You just to hope that between Franks, Allen and Trask can step up and beat out Del Rio because I think they have the best WR's on campus that they have since the Urban days. I'm really excited to see Callaway, Cleveland and now Robinson....and dont sleep on Green! welcome back. I think you follow the program from a development standpoint, closer than me. I did see the 4 star WR Robinson kid, which was good to see. Keep that lineage at WR going... but is there any hope at QB?.. i don't know those kids well enough, but people seem wary.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 1, 2017 18:38:55 GMT -5
Thanks for heads up.
What other signings do you think we ought to be aware of? Harris at bama is all I know. And some qb Miami signed.
How about my gators. Lacklustre signings on O lately.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 30, 2017 11:37:45 GMT -5
Here's my thoughts in point form--
--I trust what I see on game film. And I trust him off the field. --I'm worried about injuries, but I let that concern overgrow in the garden. He is a top 5 talent at the position in the NFL immediately. --He's not completely 1-dimensional, but he's not an every down and distance guy like Cook. You can stymie Fournette with the right defense. --I've never personally used the AP comparison with any back, but i'll do it here. Same kind of dominating running back... but like AP, game flow can take him out of game. Completely. --underrated in the open field, and natural vision --He's so fucking explosive at the second level that a DC will have to commit everything to stopping his getting past the LOS. Have to... so if you pair that with a half decent passing game, and beast at TE to play action to, it's a recipe for PIT style time of possession winning strategy and game plan --He's got some charisma to him. Franchise face kind of thing... that can help turn things around and get more players attracted to being here.
With this bit about Cook have a gangster posse and filling up chicks -- Fournette is #1 on my list, followed by Mike Williams, then Cook, then Howard.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 30, 2017 11:25:41 GMT -5
I would be more than OK with this draft -- but as you can tell from the reactions in this thread, this Glennon thing is a tough pill to swallow. It's more than just the overpaid contract he'll command, or the probability of his being mediocre, etc... what are we doing as a team, signing him? Are we Arizona, built to go the distance? It serves do to nothing but further muddy the direction we're moving in.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 29, 2017 22:18:16 GMT -5
This smells of a Shanny behind the curtains.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 29, 2017 17:39:20 GMT -5
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Post by Paradis on Jan 29, 2017 15:35:43 GMT -5
i think i like the hire? I would personally preferred their old WRs coach Curtis Johnson, but he's been off trying to do some thing with Tulane until last year.
Anyway - I'll go dust off the optimism cap and put it on for the time being.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 29, 2017 15:34:26 GMT -5
I know there were some grumblings at the end of the season that the Saints may look to trade Brandin Cooks this offseason. Pryor for Cooks Correct the mistake Never happen. beyond the obvious, there's also the fact that they 2 first round safeties on staff plus Byrd if memory serves.
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