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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Jan 14, 2015 1:19:06 GMT -5
Mariota reminds me of SAnchez....PASS!!!
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Post by southside on Jan 14, 2015 14:35:02 GMT -5
Yup. Jeremy Lin Syndrome... That's funny as I went to the Lakers game last week (Friday, Jan 2nd). Jeremy Lin lit it up. My point, he is still playing in the NBA, and effectively too. I actually like Jeremy Lin.
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Post by Brady's a catcher on Jan 14, 2015 14:44:31 GMT -5
Yup. Jeremy Lin Syndrome... That's funny as I went to the Lakers game last week (Friday, Jan 2nd). Jeremy Lin lit it up. My point, he is still playing in the NBA, and effectively too. sure, he's a serviceable NBA player, not much more, already been salary dumped, and not even close to the hype. Not his fault he was so over-hyped and it was a fun run as Knicks fan but I was not upset when they didn't match at all. It was obvious after a teams had tape on him that his weaknesses would get exposed. Seems like such a good guy also, glad for any success he has.
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Post by Dirtstar on Jan 14, 2015 14:51:25 GMT -5
you guys are funny.
a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota.
2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU.
now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust."
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jan 14, 2015 15:27:06 GMT -5
you guys are funny. a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota. 2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU. now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust." This sums up a Jets fan forum/message board experience.....whether it be here or the old JI. Completely manic & bipolar!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 15:28:28 GMT -5
Mind your business, fuckstick. Dildos, fucksticks, and Jets fans...OH MY! Wow.. JI lives... How long till someone gets banished to bogeyland? lol
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Post by Paradis on Jan 14, 2015 15:34:42 GMT -5
you guys are funny. a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota. 2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU. now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust." Not really. Some of the zombies could be described aptly above, but others like myself have always questioned him. There's more than enough cause for concern
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Post by morite on Jan 14, 2015 15:53:56 GMT -5
you guys are funny. a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota. 2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU. now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust." This sums up a Jets fan forum/message board experience.....whether it be here or the old JI. Completely manic & bipolar! Fan, derived from the word fanatic; fanatic n.noun 1.A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause.
That just about sums up most fans on most forums and message boards, no?
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 16:09:37 GMT -5
you guys are funny. a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota. 2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU. now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust." Not really. Some of the zombies could be described aptly above, but others like myself have always questioned him. There's more than enough cause for concern All QB prospects are going to have their question marks. Guys like Luck come around once every 20 years or so and when they do come around, you better have the #1 overall pick that year to be able to obtain him. Mariota has rare physical traits and his intangibles are through the roof. And with the hiring of Gailey, Mariota is picture perfect for operating his version of the spread. Like I said, if the Jets think that Mariota has the goods to develop into a Top 15 QB for the next decade, then you take him at #6 if he's available. He doesn't have to be the next Rodgers, Peyton, or SparklePony to be worthy of the selection.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 14, 2015 16:17:24 GMT -5
Not really. Some of the zombies could be described aptly above, but others like myself have always questioned him. There's more than enough cause for concern All QB prospects are going to have their question marks. Guys like Luck come around once every 20 years or so and when they do come around, you better have the #1 overall pick that year to be able to obtain him. Mariota has rare physical traits and his intangibles are through the roof. And with the hiring of Gailey, Mariota is picture perfect for operating his version of the spread. Like I said, if the Jets think that Mariota has the goods to develop into a Top 15 QB for the next decade, then you take him at #6 if he's available. He doesn't have to be the next Rodgers, Peyton, or SparklePony to be worthy of the selection. The difference in perspective here is that I don't think he's a rare talent as you keep referring to. That's an inflated statement. Was he a prolific college QB? Of course. But the buck stops there for me. I think the transition needed is the same one needed for many of those spread guys who are so scheme dependent. Why spend a first pick on mid-round upside? He won't be running around like that in the NFL. he'll be a injury away from looking like rg3
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 16:24:05 GMT -5
All QB prospects are going to have their question marks. Guys like Luck come around once every 20 years or so and when they do come around, you better have the #1 overall pick that year to be able to obtain him. Mariota has rare physical traits and his intangibles are through the roof. And with the hiring of Gailey, Mariota is picture perfect for operating his version of the spread. Like I said, if the Jets think that Mariota has the goods to develop into a Top 15 QB for the next decade, then you take him at #6 if he's available. He doesn't have to be the next Rodgers, Peyton, or SparklePony to be worthy of the selection. The difference in perspective here is that I don't think he's a rare talent as you keep referring to. That's an inflated statement. Was he a prolific college QB? Of course. But the buck stops there for me. I think the transition needed is the same one needed for many of those spread guys who are so scheme dependent. Why spend a first pick on mid-round upside? He won't be running around like that in the NFL. he'll be a injury away from looking like rg3 He's got a good NFL arm with a lightning quick release, keeps his eyes downfield in the pocket, has the size (6'4 220) and the frame to add at least 10 pounds without losing his speed, and is known as a high IQ kid who is very coachable. I wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Chan Gailey (who was basically Chip Kelly before Chip Kelly) get his hands on him while surrounding him with guys like Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Amaro and a draft pick at the skill positions and an improved OL. To me, he's absolutely worth the risk at #6 for a team with a dire QB situation.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jan 14, 2015 16:43:40 GMT -5
This sums up a Jets fan forum/message board experience.....whether it be here or the old JI. Completely manic & bipolar! Fan, derived from the word fanatic; fanatic n.noun 1.A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause.
That just about sums up most fans on most forums and message boards, no?
Very true.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 14, 2015 16:47:16 GMT -5
But then we're right back where we started. Chan's system. If it's a good fit for mariota, then it's a good fit for a bunch of these option guys. Why pay premium? Mariota was supposed to be a franchise QB. Now that notion is taking a pounding and you're justifying the pick with our OC's system. Gurley can play in any system, regardless of who the OC is. It's just not a value pick. Geno might actually have a shot at looking serviceable. Give me Gurley and a guy like Grayson or Bridge to groom in his system while geno does his thing.
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Post by Dirtstar on Jan 16, 2015 9:54:50 GMT -5
you guys are funny. a month ago, people were bitching and moaning that the 2 wins late in the season had effectively taken us out of drafting Mariota. 2 weeks ago everyone was declaring him the Next Big Thing after Oregon pounded FSU. now it's "don't wanna judge him off one game, but I hope we don't take him because he's a bust." Not really. Some of the zombies could be described aptly above, but others like myself have always questioned him. There's more than enough cause for concern surely you know more about Mariota than i do and i'm not trying to start a debate on whether or not the Jets should draft him. just pointing out how people are so quick to write him off based on one game.
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Post by vin on Jan 16, 2015 11:02:47 GMT -5
Herbstreet, while tearing apart Mariota's performance last night on Mike and Mike this AM, offered a very interesting anecdote about Mariota. Apparently, Chip Kelly told Herbstreet that Mariota processes information and learns the fastest of any football player he had ever coached (and this was a recent statement, after Kelly had been in the NFL a couple of seasons). Herbstreet noted this while offering the positive that while Mariota doesn't have the under center footwork or super gun arm - he does read defenses, make adjustments at the line and look to his second and third options when he is in the pocket. It got me thinking because as Jet fans we've made so much light in recent years of how important the mental part of the game is. Geno and Mark were both relatively gifted physically - particularly Geno is pretty fast and can make all the throws, but the questions have always been on his decision making. Kelly is a real thought leader in the area of mental development amongst his players - collaborating with tech companies to create games that give his players mental reps and allow them to practice outside of the physical - if HE is impressed by Mariota's intelligence and adaptability, I find that compelling. The next couple of months will be fascinating for him - he is being hammered for last night, but he threw what 2 TDs, no picks, solid completion percentage for ~300 yards and his receivers dropped some crucial balls. He WAS inaccurate on a few occasions, but I have a bad feeling he is going to be a polarizing figure the next four months and will likely drop to us at 6 creating a huge question mark for the new GM. Sounds like Chad Pennington Part 2.0 to me.
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