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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 21, 2015 7:56:43 GMT -5
This is not unexpected. Gailey considers himself to be a very good coach. Geno has undeniable arm talent to go along with questionable decision making and poor ball security skills. Gailey knows that no amount of coaching will give Fitz Geno's physical skills, and Gailey thinks Geno's weaknesses can be minimized with some good coaching. Plus, Gailey likes to build his offense around his players skill-sets. An O built for Geno looks a whole lot different than an O built for Fitz. Their isn't a coach in the world, from youth sports to the pros, who doesn't make every effort to give the physically talented player every chance to succeed. Plus, if the whole thing blows up, Fitz is the back-up plan. That works a whole lot better than having Geno as the back-up plan if Fits falls on his face. If I'm Gailey, I cut down Geno's reads. Maybe do like the Niners did for Alex Smith and limit most passing reads to half the field. Also, I'd adopt the Chip Kelly practice of having the O line up early with plenty of time on the play clock so I can talk to my QB about the play while he is under center. Bottom line, I trust Gailey. He's an excellent OC. First OC we've had that I have a high degree of confidence in since Hemmindinger. Exactly. Fitz is the backup plan. More importantly he's the given, he's been around too long, he's not changing unless there's a Vinny like miracle. To me their numbers are similar the difference being that Geno is a third year, 24 year old who still should be improving. I keep,saying it, we wanted Mariota and most were ok with letting him develop for a couple of seasons learning the pro game off a spread offense college career. But no one wants to give Geno the time to do the same coming off the same type of issues due to his college system. Weve already invested 2 seasons, money and a pick. Makes total sense to see what we have before dropping him to the backup spot and then throw away
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Post by Lithfan on May 21, 2015 8:09:29 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on May 21, 2015 8:34:33 GMT -5
They are reading way too much into Chan's comments. They should have just asked him why he said Belicheat is a douchebag.
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Post by MDL JET on May 21, 2015 9:01:32 GMT -5
The circus (Rex and company) has left town. The clown car (NY media) remains. If you don't fuel the clown car (QB controversy) you avoid the need to outrace or outmaneuver it; you can ignore it and move forward at the pace and in the direction that best serves the team. Chan's press conference was just great. He has STUDIED his personnel, made a defensible mature conclusion (Fitz is an old injured worthy backup, Petty needs time, Geno has shown flashes of brilliance and flashes of incompetence) about the spot. He believes he has identified a trend (Geno needs clean reads) and plans to adjust the offense to put Geno in a position to succeed. Part of that process is giving Geno lots of reps. The reason is that Chan will CONTINUE to learn about the ENTIRETY of the offense, identify the MANY trends, and work both with player progression and scheme adjustment to produce results. I find it difficult to side with those who believe in sound bites (competition, ground£, ...) over Gailey's description of his intentions. No time for a media-fueled QB controversy, there is too much real work to do AFTER the QB is known. When was the last time we spent the preseason DEVELOPING the offense instead of just choosing the damned QB? Love the fresh air; as my Dad says "Ain't the beer cold!" ….last year? Geno took all the first team snaps. There was no competition.
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Post by Harrier on May 21, 2015 9:25:37 GMT -5
The circus (Rex and company) has left town. The clown car (NY media) remains. If you don't fuel the clown car (QB controversy) you avoid the need to outrace or outmaneuver it; you can ignore it and move forward at the pace and in the direction that best serves the team. Chan's press conference was just great. He has STUDIED his personnel, made a defensible mature conclusion (Fitz is an old injured worthy backup, Petty needs time, Geno has shown flashes of brilliance and flashes of incompetence) about the spot. He believes he has identified a trend (Geno needs clean reads) and plans to adjust the offense to put Geno in a position to succeed. Part of that process is giving Geno lots of reps. The reason is that Chan will CONTINUE to learn about the ENTIRETY of the offense, identify the MANY trends, and work both with player progression and scheme adjustment to produce results. I find it difficult to side with those who believe in sound bites (competition, ground£, ...) over Gailey's description of his intentions. No time for a media-fueled QB controversy, there is too much real work to do AFTER the QB is known. When was the last time we spent the preseason DEVELOPING the offense instead of just choosing the damned QB? Love the fresh air; as my Dad says "Ain't the beer cold!" ….last year? Geno took all the first team snaps. There was no competition. Even if Geno got all the 1st team reps last year, turkey neck and his staff still pandered to the media trying to create an illusion of competition. At least Bowles and Gailey have the schnutz to say they are committed to making the QB with the most upside work. The media are just pissed that their twatter feeds took a major hit this summer. Petty is a project, and people need to stop talking about Fitz like he's the second coming of Bart Starr. Geno is the youngest QB with the most experience and the CS are obviously excited to see him develop with some genuine pieces.
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Post by jcappy on May 21, 2015 10:04:48 GMT -5
When's the last time a 'QB competition' for any team garnered any success for the following season?
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Post by ryu79 on May 21, 2015 10:15:06 GMT -5
When's the last time a 'QB competition' for any team garnered any success for the following season? Russell?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 10:39:23 GMT -5
I have no problem with this at all. We all know if Geno shits the bed in camp and Fitz is recovered, the job will go to Fitz. (not that Fitz is in any way shape or form some kind of savior).
If this does one thing, it eliminates the huge media distraction a QB competition in camp would cause.
In fact, this is probably pretty well played by the Bowles and Gailey. Just because they tell the media something, doesn't mean it has to be true.
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Post by rangerous on May 21, 2015 16:25:37 GMT -5
as an arm chair fan i defer to their judgement. imo genot needs to be pushed just like sanchez did in his four years. yeah we all saw vick come in and do just as badly suggesting that the rest of the offense was the problem. we'll find out if genot is the qb for the future. i want the jets to win so i'm pulling for whoever the jet qb is. however, someone needs to start a poll about when genot gets pulled. game 4?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 21, 2015 19:48:49 GMT -5
OMG Spaz! Chan Gailey has a Southern accent? The New York Jets have an OC with a Southern accent? What's this guy's story anyway, has he been a HC or just an OC? I don't think this is going to fly in NY. Although he has already mastered the art of being obnoxious to the NY media
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Post by Hotman on May 21, 2015 20:25:52 GMT -5
OMG Spaz! Chan Gailey has a Southern accent? The New York Jets have an OC with a Southern accent? What's this guy's story anyway, has he been a HC or just an OC? I don't think this is going to fly in NY. Although he has already mastered the art of being obnoxious to the NY media cmon bebe, he's been HC of Buffalo. I like his southern accent. I think it gives him a leg up. Many Southerners know about going on the offensive, dating back to the Civil War. He's known to come up with some pretty sweet game plans. I think once you get to know him, you'll really enjoy him. Hopefully anyways.
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Post by Touchable on May 21, 2015 20:32:06 GMT -5
OMG Spaz! Chan Gailey has a Southern accent? The New York Jets have an OC with a Southern accent? What's this guy's story anyway, has he been a HC or just an OC? I don't think this is going to fly in NY. Although he has already mastered the art of being obnoxious to the NY media cmon bebe, he's been HC of Buffalo. I like his southern accent. I think it gives him a leg up. Many Southerners know about going on the offensive, dating back to the Civil War. He's known to come up with some pretty sweet game plans. I think once you get to know him, you'll really enjoy him. Hopefully anyways. Southern boys...assemble!
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Post by McGinley on May 22, 2015 2:27:58 GMT -5
This is not unexpected. Gailey considers himself to be a very good coach. Geno has undeniable arm talent to go along with questionable decision making and poor ball security skills. Gailey knows that no amount of coaching will give Fitz Geno's physical skills, and Gailey thinks Geno's weaknesses can be minimized with some good coaching. Plus, Gailey likes to build his offense around his players skill-sets. An O built for Geno looks a whole lot different than an O built for Fitz. Their isn't a coach in the world, from youth sports to the pros, who doesn't make every effort to give the physically talented player every chance to succeed. Plus, if the whole thing blows up, Fitz is the back-up plan. That works a whole lot better than having Geno as the back-up plan if Fits falls on his face. If I'm Gailey, I cut down Geno's reads. Maybe do like the Niners did for Alex Smith and limit most passing reads to half the field. Also, I'd adopt the Chip Kelly practice of having the O line up early with plenty of time on the play clock so I can talk to my QB about the play while he is under center. Bottom line, I trust Gailey. He's an excellent OC. First OC we've had that I have a high degree of confidence in since Hemmindinger. Exactly. Fitz is the backup plan. More importantly he's the given, he's been around too long, he's not changing unless there's a Vinny like miracle. To me their numbers are similar the difference being that Geno is a third year, 24 year old who still should be improving. I keep,saying it, we wanted Mariota and most were ok with letting him develop for a couple of seasons learning the pro game off a spread offense college career. But no one wants to give Geno the time to do the same coming off the same type of issues due to his college system. Weve already invested 2 seasons, money and a pick. Makes total sense to see what we have before dropping him to the backup spot and then throw away Speak for yourself. I wanted nothing to do with that bust and would have thrown out any and all hope for a good draft if Mac had somehow gotten him.
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Post by Hotman on May 22, 2015 5:28:15 GMT -5
I didn't want Mariota either.
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Post by DDNYjets on May 22, 2015 5:47:53 GMT -5
I dont see what the big deal is. Say what you want about Geno but he is the only QB on our roster that can play now (Petty needs time) and has a chance of being here 5 years from now. They are going to give him every opportunity to prove himself. Plus this is the honeymoon year for Mac and Bowles.
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