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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 8:52:27 GMT -5
i just read that fitz is willing to sign a one year contract for 12 million guaranteed. what i don't get is how this is so much different from the 3 year contract the jets offered. i see where he might want a shorter term since he might light it up again this season. but this is fitz we're talking about and it's not likely that he will do much better than this this past season. yeah the jets got better on offense but he still has issues throwing an accurate deep ball. i guess we shoud give him credit for feeling he's better than a 12 million contract and wants a bigger one next season. Spreading it out over three years was the only way the Jets could make the cap hit work. He's "willing to accept " an offer that was never made. Let him take somebody else's lowball offer and be done with this jerk already Nobody else wants him, it will be Fritzel's agent using the "journalist for hire" to fabricate a story that someone else actually wants him. |
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 9:08:14 GMT -5
gotta disagree with you fellas on this.... Fitz is the best option for more wins, which is the final goal for this year. Kick his ass out if no playoffs, and go with the young QBS in 2017 Respect your opinion as always Bing but unfortunately it doesn't stack up with the opinion of 32 other general managers. I struggle with the fact you think it's ok to overpay a career underachieving backup while our best player goes without the contract he deserves. |
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Post by Peebag on Jun 2, 2016 9:17:12 GMT -5
Geno will be ripped to pieces here after the first few weeks,.... or less... and if Fitz signs for 12 mil and has a craptastic first half of the season....shit will get real. Fast. |
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jun 2, 2016 9:30:23 GMT -5
Maybe my brain is oversimplifying this but:
Fitz wants 1 year. Jets want 3 year (probably to spread signing bonus cap hit over 3 years).
Solution:
2 year deal. 10 million SB (5 million per year cap charge) and 2 million salary for 2016 guaranteed. Fitz pockets 12 million this year. The key - Year 2 is a player option which everyone assumes Fitz will decline to become a FA again.
Jets cap hit 2016 - 7 million. Cap hit 2017 (dead money from signing bonus) - 5 million.
We'll be in better cap shape next year to absorb the 5 million in dead money.
Am I missing something?
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 9:39:50 GMT -5
Geno will be ripped to pieces here after the first few weeks,.... or less... and if Fitz signs for 12 mil and has a craptastic first half of the season....shit will get real. Fast. I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jun 2, 2016 10:34:48 GMT -5
Those Geno OTA reports must have put a scare in him  |
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Post by greenwave on Jun 2, 2016 10:38:20 GMT -5
and if Fitz signs for 12 mil and has a craptastic first half of the season....shit will get real. Fast. I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? |
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 10:42:44 GMT -5
I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? Exactly. And if Fitz can have a flash in the pan season and eclipse 11 years off mediocrity than why can't Geno eclipse 2 in this system with this supporting cast? |
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 2, 2016 10:51:27 GMT -5
This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? Exactly. And if Fitz can have a flash in the pan season and eclipse 11 years off mediocrity than why can't Geno eclipse 2 in this system with this supporting cast? This....because Geno Sucks. Please understand that. With Fitz this year we could take a run at a wildcard or better... |
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Post by Peebag on Jun 2, 2016 10:54:02 GMT -5
I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? Excellent post. You earn 3 stars  |
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Post by Peebag on Jun 2, 2016 10:55:27 GMT -5
I have no problem paying Fitz 7 mil for the upcoming season. Anything greater than that is just wasting money.
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 11:04:09 GMT -5
Exactly. And if Fitz can have a flash in the pan season and eclipse 11 years off mediocrity than why can't Geno eclipse 2 in this system with this supporting cast? This....because Geno Sucks. Please understand that. With Fitz this year we could take a run at a wildcard or better... That's fine he does suck, but you need to realise that so does Fitz on an epic level and we are not goin anywhere near the playoffs with him. I promise you will be screamin murder by game 5 when Fitz is gettin pulled and we are paying 12 mil a year for the privilege while we let Mo walk out of the door. We are not goin to the playoffs with either of these QB's so why not just go with the cheapest and put our resources to retaining Mo? |
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 2, 2016 11:21:01 GMT -5
This....because Geno Sucks. Please understand that. With Fitz this year we could take a run at a wildcard or better... That's fine he does suck, but you need to realise that so does Fitz on an epic level and we are not goin anywhere near the playoffs with him. I promise you will be screamin murder by game 5 when Fitz is gettin pulled and we are paying 12 mil a year for the privilege while we let Mo walk out of the door. We are not goin to the playoffs with either of these QB's so why not just go with the cheapest and put our resources to retaining Mo? That is where you and I disagree. We were 5-5 last year and went on a five game rip...give me the old "I told ya so" when we are eliminated from playoff contention... |
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Post by 2foolish on Jun 2, 2016 11:28:37 GMT -5
why would the Jets bid against themselves with 12 mil?...who else is offering him that much...i don't know if i believe it...
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Post by Paradis on Jun 2, 2016 11:29:50 GMT -5
Maybe my brain is oversimplifying this but: Fitz wants 1 year. Jets want 3 year (probably to spread signing bonus cap hit over 3 years). Solution: 2 year deal. 10 million SB (5 million per year cap charge) and 2 million salary for 2016 guaranteed. Fitz pockets 12 million this year. The key - Year 2 is a player option which everyone assumes Fitz will decline to become a FA again. Jets cap hit 2016 - 7 million. Cap hit 2017 (dead money from signing bonus) - 5 million. We'll be in better cap shape next year to absorb the 5 million in dead money. Am I missing something?Yes, Fitzpatrick is a 30-something scheme dependent journeyman back up. |
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