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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jun 2, 2016 13:44:58 GMT -5
Agree. But even they same to be worth about that much in today's NFL. I don't think Fitz is going to take us into the playoffs this year given the schedule. I think the problem is Mikey Mac is trying to do the right thing for the franchise which is different from what the head coach and some key veteran players want to see happen. After as well However at some point Mike has to come to terms with the fact that Fitz is a novelty to this franchise and he needs to go one way or another. No one is blaming the jets from a business perspective. From a roster viewpoint however - the team mentally needs to move on - with or with out him. 2016 is officially under way. I agree. It's dividing the locker room and putting some players in uncomfortable situations (regarding comments about Fitz and his contract). And then there's the Mo Wilk situation as well.......
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 13:47:05 GMT -5
Lol eternal optimist. Respect your honesty there Bing, you owned it and admitted it and that's cool. However blind loyalty does not change reality. Where you see 14-2 I see 7-9..... Lucky to beat a depleted awful Dallas team in OT. Lucky to beat the Giants in OT, key interception and Giants stupidity handed us that. Second Pats game they where banged up, still could've lost that. We broke lucky against shit teams, we where not a 10-6 ball club last year. The stars have to align again at some point Partner!!!! That's the only difference between us brotha, I'm a dark pessimist and you're an eternal optimist.
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Jun 2, 2016 13:49:37 GMT -5
Right..sign him or announce that were sticking with geno...that's what needs to happen already.as usual we are the jests..arguing with Fitzpatrick..other teams are in hysterics!
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Post by JetBidi on Jun 2, 2016 15:01:54 GMT -5
Joe Caporoso @turnonthejets 8h8 hours ago If I were #Jets I'd offer 1 year, 8M dollar deal and dare Sexton to find another team who beats that offer. Name me a team who does... This guy has the right idea. Take it or sit on your sofa.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 2, 2016 15:05:41 GMT -5
The best part of this story is yet to come... Late JuneJets sign fitz to some asshole deal... late JulyHe proceeds to suck at camp cause mentally he's out of shape, and as per the fitz cycle he regresses AugustHe's outplayed by Geno and everyone knows it September/OctoberHe bombs as he always does after bamboozling, and Jets go 1-5 Mid-seasonGeno is thrown into a turbulent situation, tries to over-compensate/over-achieve and draws more ire DecemberFull team implosion. /end season. nuclear fallout. I can definitely see this exact scenario playing out. That's been the jets history and history always repeats itself. The die is already cast. Just a matter of time.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2016 15:46:42 GMT -5
I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? Exactly! Well said. Repped.
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Post by rangerous on Jun 2, 2016 16:26:32 GMT -5
I've made my position on Fitz clear since the Texans game last year so no need to beat a dead horse, but I would rather win 5 games with Geno at chump change and Wilk tied up than win 8 with Fritzel at that price. This is my position also. It would be totally unfounded to suggest that Fitz can improve upon his play from last year. He crushed any previous year's performance over a 10-year career. Therefore, we have every reason to believe we've seen his best, and his best wasn't even good enough to get the team in as a wildcard. Not to mention the fact that he saved his worst performance for the most important game. Whether or not Geno has the ability to surpass that is almost irrelevant - if someone asked you to give $12M to a QB that you KNEW couldn't take you to the playoffs even when at his best...would you pay it? this all may be true but i see genot in position to help only genot for the season after. if he does well, do the jets try to re-sign him or just let him go? i think they'll give him an offer but maybe not a long term deal with much money guaranteed. i think they're set on going forward with petty or hackenberg. as for fitz, i think the jets have added enough offense so fitz can improve on last year. but that still doesn't mean he will be any more accurate with the long passes. i do think he gives them the best shot at making the payoffs.
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Post by rangerous on Jun 2, 2016 16:29:21 GMT -5
Yes, Fitzpatrick is a 30-something scheme dependent journeyman back up. Agree. But even they seem to be worth about that much in today's NFL. I don't think Fitz is going to take us into the playoffs this year given the schedule. I think the problem is Mikey Mac is trying to do the right thing for the franchise which is different from what the head coach and some older, key veteran players want to see happen. They don't want to go into the season feeling like it's just a "rebuilding" year. maybe. i don't think maccagnan thinks this a rebuilding team. he knows all too well about player shelf life and wants to get as much as possible out of guys like revis and harris.
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Post by rangerous on Jun 2, 2016 16:31:13 GMT -5
The best part of this story is yet to come... Late JuneJets sign fitz to some asshole deal... late JulyHe proceeds to suck at camp cause mentally he's out of shape, and as per the fitz cycle he regresses AugustHe's outplayed by Geno and everyone knows it September/OctoberHe bombs as he always does after bamboozling, and Jets go 1-5 Mid-seasonGeno is thrown into a turbulent situation, tries to over-compensate/over-achieve and draws more ire DecemberFull team implosion. /end season. nuclear fallout. I can definitely see this exact scenario playing out. That's been the jets history and history always repeats itself. The die is already cast. Just a matter of time. maybe if rex was still coach. i get the feeling that bowles isn't afraid to make changes. he won't let fitz get to 1-5.
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Post by Paradis on Jun 2, 2016 17:06:18 GMT -5
I can definitely see this exact scenario playing out. That's been the jets history and history always repeats itself. The die is already cast. Just a matter of time. maybe if rex was still coach. i get the feeling that bowles isn't afraid to make changes. he won't let fitz get to 1-5. He will if they throw 12 million at Fitz.
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Post by southside on Jun 2, 2016 17:08:09 GMT -5
Move on. Geno was beating him in camp. He threw up about 10 easy drop ints last year. Mind numbing how terrible he played yet people like him for all the reasons that have nothing to do with the game come Sunday. He acts like a leader, what you want from the QB. But he sucks.
He reminded me of bad Pennington. Don't pay that guy anything. Pay Mo already. He's deserved the money for 3 seasons. This franchise just doesn't get it.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2016 19:08:18 GMT -5
To late Fritzel. Pull the offer and end this bums career like he ended our season.Sign him now. Let's build on last year..Forte is added. We only need Fitz for 1 year to develop Hack and Petty. ..Albiet no playoffs last year, 10 wins exceeded expectations...
Anyone wanna debate that? Freaks... I have no problem paying Fitz 7 mil for the upcoming season. Anything greater than that is just wasting money. I am torn on this shit, but he aint worth a penny more than 7.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2016 19:09:29 GMT -5
TBH I am really kinda hoping Mac tells him deal's off, GFY. Wanna see what Geno can do if anything, at the very least we may be able to get something for someone and I'd much rather them spend the money on MO.
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Post by Harrier on Jun 2, 2016 19:13:44 GMT -5
Take it for what it's worth but I found this headline on the Jets site interesting, maybe I just want to believe they are tellin that greedy fuck to go play Rubik's Cube with his ugly kids for a year. m.newyorkjets.com/s/30882/134?itemPos=1
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Post by vin on Jun 2, 2016 20:18:35 GMT -5
So basically....We suck with an Overpaid Fitz going possibly 8-8 this year(with how the start of this schedule is....yikes!) at best OR we suck even worse(go 6-10 at best) with GeeNope who is paid peanuts in comparison?
Gee...That will certainly put butts in the seats at MetLife, huh?
It's a no-win situation(as it always is) for the Jets and us as Jets fans.
The hurting never stops.
It never fucking stops.
EVER.
(now that said.....FUCK YOU AND LET'S GO JETS!!)
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