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Post by thebigragu on Sept 11, 2016 21:51:45 GMT -5
Was like losing to chad pennington
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 11, 2016 21:52:28 GMT -5
The reaaly really bad:
15% of the salary cap folks. He is definitely running on fumes
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Post by rangerous on Sept 12, 2016 5:07:48 GMT -5
Does anyone see any difference between this year's team and last year's? Did anything change? Improve? This is not a cohesive team. It looks like it's coached by the units, very erratic from one unit to the next. They definitely aren't playing like a "team". This does not reflect well on Bowles. And the QB coaching looks highly suspect. Between Fitz and Geno it looks like they are trying to do something neither of them are capable of. Fitz looks like he's trying to throw bullets making him more inaccurate, and in PS Geno was throwing lawn darts. Is this the same QB coach as last year? I hope he doesn't ruin Hack even worse. well yes, there are tons of improvements. the first and foremost is they came out to play out of the gate. when was the last time the offense and the defense did some very good things in the first quarter? if i were to pick the reasons why they lost (folk misses aside) i would say lack of clutch catches by marshall and the inability of fitz to get passes over the defense. and not just the couple of tipped balls but when has fitz ever overthrown the receiver? not many. let's see if they can recover against buffalo.
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Post by Big L on Sept 12, 2016 6:00:12 GMT -5
Hate hate HATE that corner play 10 yards off the receiver at the snap bullshit. Unreal. You can see it pre snap, and you know where the ball is going for an 8 yard gain.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Sept 12, 2016 6:32:01 GMT -5
My small picture take away from the game is that the Jets have the worst starting QB in the NFL. He is a terribly innacurate weak armed QB with flawed mechanics who is nearing the end of his career. This IS what Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like against good NFL defenses.
My big picture take away is that Bowles had his team ready to play and that the Jets may have finally landed a coach who can deliver some long term success.
Get ready for some more heart breaking losses because the schedule is tough and the Jets have just enough to be competitive with NFL elites, but not enough to beat any of them without getting a few breaks.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 12, 2016 6:36:47 GMT -5
My small picture take away from the game is that the Jets have the worst starting QB in the NFL. He is a terribly immaculate weak armed QB with flawed mechanics who is nearing the end of his career. This IS what Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like against good NFL defenses. My big picture take away is that Bowles had his team ready to play and that the Jets may have finally landed a coach who can deliver some long term success. Get ready for some more heart breaking losses because the schedule is tough and the Jets have just enough to be competitive with NFL elites, but not enough to beat any of them without getting a few breaks. Absolutely love Bowles, I hope he is here a very long time. As for the rest, we knew the writing was on the wall and this is how it was gonna go down and we tried tellin people. The Bengals are actually a team we should be beating on this schedule, we haven't even seen the meat off good teams yet. I can't see a win on there in the next 5 games.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Sept 12, 2016 7:04:41 GMT -5
McLendon.
Thought this signing was just depth. Huge game along with everyone on the DL.
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Post by Lithfan on Sept 12, 2016 7:06:48 GMT -5
I think what we saw yesterday is how thin the margin for error is when you don't have a big play offense. The majority of that game, we outplayed the Bengals, won the battle on both sides of the line of scrimmage, moved the ball between the 20s all game, but its awfully tough in this league to have to consistently execute 10+ play drives to score. Odds are something is going to go wrong if you have to run enough plays: a drop, a bad throw, a penalty, a missed block, a play by the defense, something. When you play like we do, you can't make mistakes. Cant miss kicks. Cant go 2 for 5 in the red zone. Cant afford to give up big plays without getting them ourselves. 3 plays of 49+ yards, 4 plays of 29+. Half the Bengal yardage came on those 4 plays. We were in the red zone 5 times to their 2, but they were able to go over the red zone, we had to go through it and couldn't.
Too many mistakes for a team with no margin for error.
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Post by maury77 on Sept 12, 2016 7:38:57 GMT -5
The Bengals, from top to bottom, have one of the most talented teams in the league, so I'm not terribly heart broken about yesterday's loss. I think with some work on the coverages the team employs on D and play calls within the red zone on offense, we should be fine. I'm almost more disappointed the Pats won without Brady and Gronk.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Sept 12, 2016 7:41:19 GMT -5
What we saw yesterday was a total regression to the norm for this team. No one can argue that Fitz and this offense played above its head last year, Fitz had career numbers and the offense was one of the best in the redzone. Based on past performance and a pretty extensive track record you could not reasonably expect to repeat those numbers and efficiency. This season had 8-8 written all over it for a while now.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 12, 2016 7:47:54 GMT -5
I think what we saw yesterday is how thin the margin for error is when you don't have a big play offense. The majority of that game, we outplayed the Bengals, won the battle on both sides of the line of scrimmage, moved the ball between the 20s all game, but its awfully tough in this league to have to consistently execute 10+ play drives to score. Odds are something is going to go wrong if you have to run enough plays: a drop, a bad throw, a penalty, a missed block, a play by the defense, something. When you play like we do, you can't make mistakes. Cant miss kicks. Cant go 2 for 5 in the red zone. Cant afford to give up big plays without getting them ourselves. 3 plays of 49+ yards, 4 plays of 29+. Half the Bengal yardage came on those 4 plays. We were in the red zone 5 times to their 2, but they were able to go over the red zone, we had to go through it and couldn't. Too many mistakes for a team with no margin for error. The lack of big play capability by this offense is concerning and something good defences are only too aware of. When you don't have that element to your offense and are suckin the clock with 9 minute drives, you better damn make sure you're better than 2/5 in the redzone when you get down there if you wanna win ball games. We where the better team but the Bengals have an element to their offense we don't, the ability to stick 7 on the board in the of an eye.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Sept 12, 2016 7:49:03 GMT -5
The Bengals, from top to bottom, have one of the most talented teams in the league, so I'm not terribly heart broken about yesterday's loss. I think with some work on the coverages the team employs on D and play calls within the red zone on offense, we should be fine. I'm almost more disappointed the Pats won without Brady and Gronk. Not only did they win without Brady and Gronkowski, but look at their O-line. Two rookies at guard, two back ups at RT and LT and went into Arizona and won a game. Then add in Hogan and Edelman at WR and you realize just how good a coach Belidick is.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 12, 2016 7:51:45 GMT -5
Does anyone see any difference between this year's team and last year's? Did anything change? Improve? This is not a cohesive team. It looks like it's coached by the units, very erratic from one unit to the next. They definitely aren't playing like a "team". This does not reflect well on Bowles. And the QB coaching looks highly suspect. Between Fitz and Geno it looks like they are trying to do something neither of them are capable of. Fitz looks like he's trying to throw bullets making him more inaccurate, and in PS Geno was throwing lawn darts. Is this the same QB coach as last year? I hope he doesn't ruin Hack even worse. well yes, there are tons of improvements. the first and foremost is they came out to play out of the gate. when was the last time the offense and the defense did some very good things in the first quarter? if i were to pick the reasons why they lost (folk misses aside) i would say lack of clutch catches by marshall and the inability of fitz to get passes over the defense. and not just the couple of tipped balls but when has fitz ever overthrown the receiver? not many. let's see if they can recover against buffalo. And then they followed up that opening drive with a heartbreaker for no points. They were gifted with a penalty and wasted 6 opportunities to score. Including the missed field goal. Cincy really came back strong and held the fort there. That was very un-Marvin Lewis like. So instead of a near sure 7 they didn't even get 3. I think that was the turning point of the game. So one strong drive. Woop
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 12, 2016 7:53:58 GMT -5
Hate hate HATE that corner play 10 yards off the receiver at the snap bullshit. Unreal. You can see it pre snap, and you know where the ball is going for an 8 yard gain. I heard on sports radio that Bowles doesn't like press coverage so Revis's skill isn't really taken advantage of. Kind of a waste of $17 million if true. If you ask me
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 12, 2016 7:56:29 GMT -5
I think what we saw yesterday is how thin the margin for error is when you don't have a big play offense. The majority of that game, we outplayed the Bengals, won the battle on both sides of the line of scrimmage, moved the ball between the 20s all game, but its awfully tough in this league to have to consistently execute 10+ play drives to score. Odds are something is going to go wrong if you have to run enough plays: a drop, a bad throw, a penalty, a missed block, a play by the defense, something. When you play like we do, you can't make mistakes. Cant miss kicks. Cant go 2 for 5 in the red zone. Cant afford to give up big plays without getting them ourselves. 3 plays of 49+ yards, 4 plays of 29+. Half the Bengal yardage came on those 4 plays. We were in the red zone 5 times to their 2, but they were able to go over the red zone, we had to go through it and couldn't. Too many mistakes for a team with no margin for error. Great observation and summary
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