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Post by beerfish on Feb 24, 2016 16:49:47 GMT -5
That's a pretty nice haul and the only player I don't like is Drake. Also see that Correa is now being mentioned as first rounder so I doubt he'll be around at the end of the third. My draft list will shuffle around quite a bit in the coming weeks, as of now Correa was rated around there by many resources. Quite a few people don't like Drake at all, injuries? Too soft? He seems to have a good skill set to me. Not a work horse back but a guy that can catch and make some plays.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 24, 2016 16:48:10 GMT -5
Very interesting (and as of today, plausible) 1st round... I'm obviously 100% on board that has us landing Lynch. Be ecstatic..... Question; if Spence had slid 2 more spots -- would have taken him over Lynch? couple thoughts --Like the fit for Henry --Another tackle to CIN? they just drafted 2. --could totally see the top 10 going that way. Lot of picks make sense overall --only criticism; your top 20 is a little conventional in terms of name power... always a 2-3 players go earlier than expected.. that said, can't blame you for not forcing unconventional picks. That is a tough one but I'd still go for the Qb probably. OLB is the bigger immediate need but getting a potential starting QB at 20 would be tough to pass up. Of course have no idea if the jets like him or not. Yeah I always overlook recent drafts beyond the 1st round or so and thus with cincy. I was of course basing it on their Rt leaving. Tough to gauge some of the players that are going to force their way into the 1st and mess things up. I need to get more info as time goes on.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 24, 2016 15:21:30 GMT -5
1 - Tennessee - Laremy Tunsil - OT
2 - Cleveland - Jared Goff - QB
3 - San Diego - DeForest Buckner - DE
4 - Dallas - Myles Jack - OLB
5 - Jacksonville - Jalen Ramsey - CB
6 - Baltimore - Ronnie Staley - OT
7 - San Francisco - Joey Bosa - DE
8 - Miami - Vernon Hargreaves - CB
9 - Tampa Bay - Ezekiel Elliot - RB
10 - N.Y. Giants - A'shawn Robinson - DT
11 - Chicago - Jaylon Smith - OLB
12 - New Orleans - Laquon Treadwell - WR
13 - Philadelphia - Carson Wentz - QB
14 - Oakland - Mackenzie Alexander - CB
15 - LA Rams - Reggie Ragland - ILB
16 - Detroit - Robert Nkemdiche - DT
17 - Atlanta - Andrew Billings - DT
18 - Indianapolis - Noah Spence - OLB
19 - Buffalo - Shaq Lawson - DE
20 - NY Jets - Paxton Lynch - QB
21 - Washington - Jarran Reed - DT
22 - Houston - Corey Coleman - WR
23 - Minnesota - Taylor Decker - OT
24 - Cincinnati - Jack Conklin - OT
25 - Pittsburgh - Hunter Henry - TE
26 -Seattle - Leonard Floyd - OLB
27 - Green Bay - Sheldon Rankins - DT
28 - Kansas City - Emmanuel Ogbah - DE
29 - New England - Cheaters don't get a pick.
30 - Arizona - Shon Coleman - OT
31 - Carolina - Derrick Henry - RB
32 - Denver - Cody Whitehair - OG
Jets Draft:
1 - Paxton Lynch - QB - Memphis
2 - Jason Spriggs - OT - Indiana
3 - Kamalei Correa - OLB - Boise State
4 - Kenyan Drake - RB - Alabama
5 - James Cowser - OLB - Southern Utah
7 - Jakeem Grant - WR/KR - Texas Tech
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Post by beerfish on Feb 24, 2016 10:35:30 GMT -5
Tell me who else is on the board with treadwell and elliot first.
Is Treadwell really that outstanding? He's for sure the top rated WR but I don't sense a buzz about him near the Wr laden drafts the last few years.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 23, 2016 11:26:17 GMT -5
This is really in my mind is area of flat out luck in many cases and the nfl hates that word for anything other than the name of a franchise QB. Get a character issue guy later on and he turns out good your a genius (Honey badger so far), get a guy who falls on his ass and you are a bum gm (Blackmon). I do not disagree that you need to weight risk and that goes for guys who are injured as well when drafted. I simply hate when my team for multiple years has the sword of damocles over its head becasue great player A is due for a one year suspension next time he screws up.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 23, 2016 10:16:02 GMT -5
To play devils advocate -- so what? Every year teams lose players to injuries, retirement, decline in play, suspensions, free agency etc. If you can get 2+ Years out of Burfict for a late pick - or shit, no pick... Fucking A! NFL rosters are so year-to-year at this point that I wouldn't look at the Burfict situation with any less than envy. Winning a ring is so fucking hard these days. Everything has line up like the moons in Dark Crystal. I say get it where ever you can , just don't overpay. Exactly, it's always about the cost involved. Besides, how many players with squeaky clean character are drafted and don't work out? Is that really any different than taking a chance on a kid with exceptional talent but character issues and that not working out? Players come and go every year on NFL rosters, taking a chance on a player or two is not going to set your team back significantly. Is there really that much difference between drafting Stephen Hill or Devin Smith in the second round or drafting DGB and him busting because of off field issues? I would take a chance on the DGB type prospect everyday of the week. Would I invest a top 10 pick on a kid like that? No, but I would certainly consider anything from the second round and later on those types of kids. If these thing were in total isolation of one player I'd be far more willing to risk things. They are not however. It's not just a matter of , oh this guy didn't work out with our 3rd rounder off he goes it usually is something like Gordon or blackmon. We have our talented #1 WR!, plan for the next year as if that is the case, guy gets suspended. Comes back, plays lights out or a year and half, gets suspend again, gets a huge pay day, gets suspended again. All this time the front office has no idea if they have a big hole in their line up or not. They can also poison a locker room if you are not careful. If it was just a matter of them playing great and keeping clean or busting bad and being tossed within a year or so it would be much easier but it often doesn't happen that clean.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 22, 2016 17:17:14 GMT -5
Everyone hated burfuct, cincy picks him up, he is great, cincy are geniuses to get him for nothing really and then after the two yer honeymoon or so, boom, same old burfict. To play devils advocate -- so what? Every year teams lose players to injuries, retirement, decline in play, suspensions, free agency etc. If you can get 2+ Years out of Burfict for a late pick - or shit, no pick... Fucking A! NFL rosters are so year-to-year at this point that I wouldn't look at the Burfict situation with any less than envy. Winning a ring is so fucking hard these days. Everything has line up like the moons in Dark Crystal. I say get it where ever you can, just don't overpay. Well the fact that Burfict was a big helping hand in the team getting ass booted from the playoffs it is a rather big deal. If you can't count on players sooner or later and often and the worst time they might fall into their behavior. How has it worked out for the bungals to be poster boys for this kind of thing for years? It's fine to say, get them late thus no risk but when they lay well for a few years, get the big pay day and then boom! Now they screw up. Also the league itself is WAY more sensitive to this stuff than it was a few years back. How do the jets plan for the next 2 or 3 years? Gee we have richardson, hes pretty good but he might screw it up at any moment and get a year.....Gee and another year down the road the guy wants to get paid....what do we do? I understand what your saying but these headaches can go well beyond just the one player sitting out.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 22, 2016 14:14:57 GMT -5
The more I see this issue the more the risk is, there are so few Tyran mathieus and I'm still waiting for him to falter sooner or later. As Dr House says, 'people don't change'. Gregory, Josh whats his name for the browns, heck even burfict, kenny britt on and on and on. Talent is very tantalizing but I am afraid of character concerns it really hurts your team overall not just the loss of one player for a few games. Look at Richardson, awesome player, loads of talent, big dumbass that we are all holding our breaths about as to the next time he is going to fluff up. People don't change themselves is what you should say. People do change, but the problem is will they stay changed . I won't dispute that but lets put it this way, sports and wealth and fame just add kindling to the fire for this kind of thing. In many cases it is a sooner or later kind of thing. Worth taking risks later in the draft? Maybe, depending on the character eval but even that is a risk, see burfict. Everyone hated burfuct, cincy picks him up, he is great, cincy are geniuses to get him for nothing really and then after the two yer honeymoon or so, boom, same old burfict.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 22, 2016 12:49:45 GMT -5
The more I see this issue the more the risk is, there are so few Tyran mathieus and I'm still waiting for him to falter sooner or later. As Dr House says, 'people don't change'. Gregory, Josh whats his name for the browns, heck even burfict, kenny britt on and on and on. Talent is very tantalizing but I am afraid of character concerns it really hurts your team overall not just the loss of one player for a few games.
Look at Richardson, awesome player, loads of talent, big dumbass that we are all holding our breaths about as to the next time he is going to fluff up.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 22, 2016 11:44:24 GMT -5
To be honest I think the Jets are going trade down if anything this year and not go for it until next year. If a Qb starts falling to an affordable area (teens and down) they could trade up. I also view or present GM as the antithesis of Tanny and he will only go up for a super prime player. I don't think we will use the assets to move up that it would cost, unless we can finagle a player in the trade as well as picks.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 22, 2016 10:27:30 GMT -5
QB and only QB, no one else in this draft is eye popping enough to go after imo.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 11, 2016 12:13:31 GMT -5
Sorry - but I agree with Tinny. A year ago at this time I would agree with you. After this past year no way and things that were no issue with me before annoy me about the guy. 'I'm too damn good for the senior bowl' And I dismiss the old 'Oh he had no weapons!' bit. If the guy is the best Qb in the draft he looks pretty damn good no matter who is out there.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 10, 2016 15:47:07 GMT -5
He has seemed to be a bit more condescending and dismissive at times than he was in the past. I do like his top 5 in each position, it's pretty good at looking at upward and downward trending guys over time.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 10, 2016 11:02:35 GMT -5
Oline sucks in this draft at the top end and after say the 2nd round from my untrained eye. Fortunately for us I think there is a bit of a sweet spot around where we are with acceptable players if we are hell bent on taking a tackle. (Decker, Conklin)
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Post by beerfish on Feb 10, 2016 11:00:02 GMT -5
DC = Cornerback (defensive corner?) RS = Return Specialist OB = Outside Linebacker PT = Punter
That's what I am thinking.
There is one player that is going to be picked by the Pats 100% for sure, bank on this. Ed Eagan NW State.
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