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Post by Ff2 on Dec 10, 2014 21:22:40 GMT -5
1. Who didn't know this?
2. Thoughts?
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 10, 2014 21:25:04 GMT -5
Define Toture?
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 10, 2014 21:31:35 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-torture-report-world-reaction/Afghanistan Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned the "inhumane actions" outlined in the report and told reporters in Kabul Wednesday that the document "unfortunately shows that our Afghan compatriots had been tortured." It was "really painful" that some torture victims were innocent, he said. "All Afghan people should know that after 2014 no international forces would be allowed to put any Afghan citizen in jail, get into their homes or have prisons," he said. China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told reporters Wednesday: "China consistently opposes torture. We believe that the U.S. side should reflect upon and rectify its relevant behavior, earnestly obey and implement the provisions of international conventions." In a commentary published by the state-run Xinhua news agency, China blasted what it said was "the sheer hypocrisy of the United States as a defender of human rights." The commentary said Guantanamo Bay was "notorious for human rights violations since 2004," adding that neither President George W. Bush nor President Barrack Obama "has done anything to change the situation." "To simply look through the details of water boarding, deprivation of sleep and sexual abuses in the report can constitute a traumatizing experience," Wang Shang said in the commentary. Great Britain Prime Minster David Cameron condemned torture while in Turkey on Tuesday, saying: "Torture is wrong. Torture is always wrong. Those of us want to see a safer, more secure world, want to see the extremism defeated. We won't succeed if we lose our moral authority." Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the report in a series of tweets, saying of the U.S.: "They claim they've a prideful nation; US govts. debased & misguided their ppl who aren't aware of many realities."
He wrote in another tweet: "Today, US govt. is symbol of tyranny against humanity; even American ppl are faced w cruelty."lol ok iran pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mass-hangings-in-iran-2.jpgand china thats rich. You got nets for people to stop them from killing themselves due to too much work, so they can go back to work. The rest of this world can kiss my American ass
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Post by Fishooked on Dec 10, 2014 21:36:59 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-torture-report-world-reaction/Afghanistan Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned the "inhumane actions" outlined in the report and told reporters in Kabul Wednesday that the document "unfortunately shows that our Afghan compatriots had been tortured." It was "really painful" that some torture victims were innocent, he said. "All Afghan people should know that after 2014 no international forces would be allowed to put any Afghan citizen in jail, get into their homes or have prisons," he said. China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told reporters Wednesday: "China consistently opposes torture. We believe that the U.S. side should reflect upon and rectify its relevant behavior, earnestly obey and implement the provisions of international conventions." In a commentary published by the state-run Xinhua news agency, China blasted what it said was "the sheer hypocrisy of the United States as a defender of human rights." The commentary said Guantanamo Bay was "notorious for human rights violations since 2004," adding that neither President George W. Bush nor President Barrack Obama "has done anything to change the situation." "To simply look through the details of water boarding, deprivation of sleep and sexual abuses in the report can constitute a traumatizing experience," Wang Shang said in the commentary. Great Britain Prime Minster David Cameron condemned torture while in Turkey on Tuesday, saying: "Torture is wrong. Torture is always wrong. Those of us want to see a safer, more secure world, want to see the extremism defeated. We won't succeed if we lose our moral authority." Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the report in a series of tweets, saying of the U.S.: "They claim they've a prideful nation; US govts. debased & misguided their ppl who aren't aware of many realities."
He wrote in another tweet: "Today, US govt. is symbol of tyranny against humanity; even American ppl are faced w cruelty."lol ok iran pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mass-hangings-in-iran-2.jpgand china thats rich. You got nets for people to stop them from killing themselves due to too much work, so they can go back to work. The rest of this world can kiss my American ass They're just napping |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 21:38:23 GMT -5
I would start with a pair of wire cutters. |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 10, 2014 21:39:03 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-torture-report-world-reaction/Afghanistan Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned the "inhumane actions" outlined in the report and told reporters in Kabul Wednesday that the document "unfortunately shows that our Afghan compatriots had been tortured." It was "really painful" that some torture victims were innocent, he said. "All Afghan people should know that after 2014 no international forces would be allowed to put any Afghan citizen in jail, get into their homes or have prisons," he said. China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told reporters Wednesday: "China consistently opposes torture. We believe that the U.S. side should reflect upon and rectify its relevant behavior, earnestly obey and implement the provisions of international conventions." In a commentary published by the state-run Xinhua news agency, China blasted what it said was "the sheer hypocrisy of the United States as a defender of human rights." The commentary said Guantanamo Bay was "notorious for human rights violations since 2004," adding that neither President George W. Bush nor President Barrack Obama "has done anything to change the situation." "To simply look through the details of water boarding, deprivation of sleep and sexual abuses in the report can constitute a traumatizing experience," Wang Shang said in the commentary. Great Britain Prime Minster David Cameron condemned torture while in Turkey on Tuesday, saying: "Torture is wrong. Torture is always wrong. Those of us want to see a safer, more secure world, want to see the extremism defeated. We won't succeed if we lose our moral authority." Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the report in a series of tweets, saying of the U.S.: "They claim they've a prideful nation; US govts. debased & misguided their ppl who aren't aware of many realities."
He wrote in another tweet: "Today, US govt. is symbol of tyranny against humanity; even American ppl are faced w cruelty."lol ok iran pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mass-hangings-in-iran-2.jpgand china thats rich. You got nets for people to stop them from killing themselves due to too much work, so they can go back to work. The rest of this world can kiss my American ass They're just napping Iranian Pilates |
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 10, 2014 22:08:12 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-torture-report-world-reaction/Afghanistan Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned the "inhumane actions" outlined in the report and told reporters in Kabul Wednesday that the document "unfortunately shows that our Afghan compatriots had been tortured." It was "really painful" that some torture victims were innocent, he said. "All Afghan people should know that after 2014 no international forces would be allowed to put any Afghan citizen in jail, get into their homes or have prisons," he said. China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told reporters Wednesday: "China consistently opposes torture. We believe that the U.S. side should reflect upon and rectify its relevant behavior, earnestly obey and implement the provisions of international conventions." In a commentary published by the state-run Xinhua news agency, China blasted what it said was "the sheer hypocrisy of the United States as a defender of human rights." The commentary said Guantanamo Bay was "notorious for human rights violations since 2004," adding that neither President George W. Bush nor President Barrack Obama "has done anything to change the situation." "To simply look through the details of water boarding, deprivation of sleep and hork hork wherg wherg whergual abuses in the report can constitute a traumatizing experience," Wang Shang said in the commentary. Great Britain Prime Minster David Cameron condemned torture while in Turkey on Tuesday, saying: "Torture is wrong. Torture is always wrong. Those of us want to see a safer, more secure world, want to see the extremism defeated. We won't succeed if we lose our moral authority." Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the report in a series of tweets, saying of the U.S.: "They claim they've a prideful nation; US govts. debased & misguided their ppl who aren't aware of many realities."
He wrote in another tweet: "Today, US govt. is symbol of tyranny against humanity; even American ppl are faced w cruelty."lol ok iran pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mass-hangings-in-iran-2.jpgand china thats rich. You got nets for people to stop them from killing themselves due to too much work, so they can go back to work. The rest of this world can kiss my American ass What would Jesus say? |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 10, 2014 23:15:17 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-torture-report-world-reaction/Afghanistan Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani condemned the "inhumane actions" outlined in the report and told reporters in Kabul Wednesday that the document "unfortunately shows that our Afghan compatriots had been tortured." It was "really painful" that some torture victims were innocent, he said. "All Afghan people should know that after 2014 no international forces would be allowed to put any Afghan citizen in jail, get into their homes or have prisons," he said. China Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hong Lei told reporters Wednesday: "China consistently opposes torture. We believe that the U.S. side should reflect upon and rectify its relevant behavior, earnestly obey and implement the provisions of international conventions." In a commentary published by the state-run Xinhua news agency, China blasted what it said was "the sheer hypocrisy of the United States as a defender of human rights." The commentary said Guantanamo Bay was "notorious for human rights violations since 2004," adding that neither President George W. Bush nor President Barrack Obama "has done anything to change the situation." "To simply look through the details of water boarding, deprivation of sleep and hork hork wherg wherg whergual abuses in the report can constitute a traumatizing experience," Wang Shang said in the commentary. Great Britain Prime Minster David Cameron condemned torture while in Turkey on Tuesday, saying: "Torture is wrong. Torture is always wrong. Those of us want to see a safer, more secure world, want to see the extremism defeated. We won't succeed if we lose our moral authority." Iran
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei responded to the report in a series of tweets, saying of the U.S.: "They claim they've a prideful nation; US govts. debased & misguided their ppl who aren't aware of many realities."
He wrote in another tweet: "Today, US govt. is symbol of tyranny against humanity; even American ppl are faced w cruelty."lol ok iran pamelageller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/mass-hangings-in-iran-2.jpgand china thats rich. You got nets for people to stop them from killing themselves due to too much work, so they can go back to work. The rest of this world can kiss my American ass What would Jesus say? He already spoke on these matters. He will again. Also if you start going down the road of feeling its okay to attack in your passive aggressive cute pussy way any christian belief or post that doesn't even have anything to do with it, be warned im not that kind of Christian and there's a flipside to that coin. When im talking about religion or any of those matters then Its fine for you to attack, but bring it up like you do for a reaction, you know the one i let go about priests raping boys a week ago, I turn the other cheek on that one. You want a debate or fight I will give it to you civilly. You keep poking for a reaction you will get one too. Plus its in poor taste. I don't pop in every thread and say what would Moses do? Because i like Moses and i like you..Push to far you might Wind back up in the desert or under it, and nobody will be leading your fatass out of it this time |
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Post by tailgatejoe on Dec 11, 2014 3:27:28 GMT -5
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Post by Big L on Dec 11, 2014 6:45:22 GMT -5
TBH I don't really feel bad at all about the alledged 'torture'.
Let's see, your country men just killed 3000 of our citizens, and you're likely involved, so yes, I'm going to hurt you.
I mean, what does the media want us to do? Capture these guys and give them milk and cookies? Fuck them. As them questions then just put a bullet in their head next time.
You can't win a war without being violent. Somewhere along the line, this country has lost its desire to let loose unabashed violence against its enemies.
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Post by Big L on Dec 11, 2014 6:46:09 GMT -5
And whining that sleep deprivation is torture is absurd.
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 11, 2014 6:48:31 GMT -5
Torture is wrong. The humane thing to do is cover our faces and crudely decapitate them on film.
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Post by quantum on Dec 11, 2014 9:12:56 GMT -5
meh, its the only way to deal with savages. and protesters.  |
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 11, 2014 10:08:43 GMT -5
He already spoke on these matters. He will again. Also if you start going down the road of feeling its okay to attack in your passive aggressive cute pussy way any christian belief or post that doesn't even have anything to do with it, be warned im not that kind of Christian and there's a flipside to that coin. When im talking about religion or any of those matters then Its fine for you to attack, but bring it up like you do for a reaction, you know the one i let go about priests raping boys a week ago, I turn the other cheek on that one. You want a debate or fight I will give it to you civilly. You keep poking for a reaction you will get one too. Plus its in poor taste. I don't pop in every thread and say what would Moses do? Because i like Moses and i like you..Push to far you might Wind back up in the desert or under it, and nobody will be leading your fatass out of it this time Dont get all warFist on me. Don't be a pussy and look at every little remark as an "attack." I think its reasonable of me to question how people feel about this given their faith. You know I like you so you better give me a list of what we can't discuss. If you want me to put in a different way fine...."How can people of faith justify torturing another human being." And "Because they do it" isn't a great answer. We are ON THE RECORD for torturing people and then months later deciding they were the wrong guys. Opps. For the record, I don't even know how I feel about all this. Trying to process it through discussion. Lets not turn this place into what JI's Politics was. |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 11, 2014 10:22:03 GMT -5
He already spoke on these matters. He will again. Also if you start going down the road of feeling its okay to attack in your passive aggressive cute pussy way any christian belief or post that doesn't even have anything to do with it, be warned im not that kind of Christian and there's a flipside to that coin. When im talking about religion or any of those matters then Its fine for you to attack, but bring it up like you do for a reaction, you know the one i let go about priests raping boys a week ago, I turn the other cheek on that one. You want a debate or fight I will give it to you civilly. You keep poking for a reaction you will get one too. Plus its in poor taste. I don't pop in every thread and say what would Moses do? Because i like Moses and i like you..Push to far you might Wind back up in the desert or under it, and nobody will be leading your fatass out of it this time Dont get all warFist on me. Don't be a pussy and look at every little remark as an "attack." I think its reasonable of me to question how people feel about this given their faith. You know I like you so you better give me a list of what we can't discuss. If you want me to put in a different way fine...."How can people of faith justify torturing another human being." And "Because they do it" isn't a great answer. We are ON THE RECORD for torturing people and then months later deciding they were the wrong guys. Opps. For the record, I don't even know how I feel about all this. Trying to process it through discussion. Lets not turn this place into what JI's Politics was. Oh it's certainly will never be JI politics here. Literally there's no moderating to save someone's ass because feelings are hurt, or everyone disagrees with their views. As to your other point. I figured I'd ask you to keep one Hard On you have with me, My Faith the fuck out of every and any other argument. Plus how am I to explain how a person of faith deals with this type of situation, and can justify it through their faith, with a person who thinks we're delusional in our faith. Point being you don't believe in Jesus, so stop bringing it up,in order to support your argument. You fucking Dickhead now did you understand that? I could say to you What would Israel say? Pretty sure they understand the people we're dealing with. See its NOT needed in this argument about your feelings on this supposed torture |
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