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Post by rangerous on Apr 14, 2016 20:29:40 GMT -5
has your generation put a man on the friggin moon yet? oh....we got facebook. big fuckin deal. we got the bank crash because the morons pumping derivatives didn't understand risk. care to say what your generation had in that fiasco? maybe not directly but there sure seem to be an awful lot of genx and millenials working on wall street and in banks and not having a clue. true enough every generation has their fair share of lazy shitheads but yours has been severely disadvantaged by the educational system that you were brought up in. the education HAS been going down hill since the creation of the dept of education in all phases and grades. things like title IX, while they sound fair has done nothing but increase the cost of compliance and swell the administration ranks of colleges and universities. and the libtards have been using title IX to force our universities to change all manner of policies. remember the initial intent was to force universities to have equivalent women's athletic teams to the men's teams. and by the way, the basics of the technology that the moron zuckerberg used to make facebook was created in the 70's by the guys with the friggin slide rules. Lol threatened much? Not sure why you got your panties all bunched up. I never once said millennials were a greater generation. Simply, I stated that just like every other generation, we have the good and the bad. To judge us based on young people who are just now entering the workforce and adulthood is pretty short sighted. Also, attempting to pin the fallout of the housing crisis, artificially inflated derivatives market, or the lack of a legit K-12 public education on a generation who is just now turning 30 is...well...stupid. That's GenX and Baby Boomers. I assure you, in '02 when the internet bubble burst and millennians were between 14-18, or '06 with subprime mortgages, or '08 derivatives crash when most millennials were between 20-24 years of age, we weren't responsible. what you said was your generation is full of talented people. where? mark schmuckerberg? if that's the best you guys can do we are in a heap of shit. the simple fact is your generation, because of the coddling , has no fire. you guys going to fight a war? how about a just war? you guys going to understand free markets and freedom? i don't think so. not from all the lgbt and blm bs that's going on. what i see is one very selfish generation that thinks they are owed the world. about the only thing you said that was right is that we who came before are the cause. that's true. as the father of two millenials i am pretty darn distressed at the way they feel entitled and don't have to work very hard. we'll see now that they're almost out of college but they have some pretty expensive tastes and, believe me, i could never afford to shop even at j crew then or even now. and we'll see how your little brain washed minds will somehow deprogram yourselves and get with the program. and if your group thinks the bern can pull this country out of obozo's tailspin, think again.
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Post by Hotman on Apr 14, 2016 20:56:52 GMT -5
Lol threatened much? Not sure why you got your panties all bunched up. I never once said millennials were a greater generation. Simply, I stated that just like every other generation, we have the good and the bad. To judge us based on young people who are just now entering the workforce and adulthood is pretty short sighted. Also, attempting to pin the fallout of the housing crisis, artificially inflated derivatives market, or the lack of a legit K-12 public education on a generation who is just now turning 30 is...well...stupid. That's GenX and Baby Boomers. I assure you, in '02 when the internet bubble burst and millennians were between 14-18, or '06 with subprime mortgages, or '08 derivatives crash when most millennials were between 20-24 years of age, we weren't responsible. what you said was your generation is full of talented people. where? mark schmuckerberg? if that's the best you guys can do we are in a heap of shit. the simple fact is your generation, because of the coddling , has no fire. you guys going to fight a war? how about a just war? you guys going to understand free markets and freedom? i don't think so. not from all the lgbt and blm bs that's going on. what i see is one very selfish generation that thinks they are owed the world. about the only thing you said that was right is that we who came before are the cause. that's true. as the father of two millenials i am pretty darn distressed at the way they feel entitled and don't have to work very hard. we'll see now that they're almost out of college but they have some pretty expensive tastes and, believe me, i could never afford to shop even at j crew then or even now. and we'll see how your little brain washed minds will somehow deprogram yourselves and get with the program. and if your group thinks the bern can pull this country out of obozo's tailspin, think again. Clearly can't blame that on millenials tho, so who's fault is that? And many millenials are total pusseys and will not make it out of day 1 of the apocalypse. JMO.
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Post by greenwichjetfan on Apr 15, 2016 9:50:51 GMT -5
Lol threatened much? Not sure why you got your panties all bunched up. I never once said millennials were a greater generation. Simply, I stated that just like every other generation, we have the good and the bad. To judge us based on young people who are just now entering the workforce and adulthood is pretty short sighted. Also, attempting to pin the fallout of the housing crisis, artificially inflated derivatives market, or the lack of a legit K-12 public education on a generation who is just now turning 30 is...well...stupid. That's GenX and Baby Boomers. I assure you, in '02 when the internet bubble burst and millennians were between 14-18, or '06 with subprime mortgages, or '08 derivatives crash when most millennials were between 20-24 years of age, we weren't responsible. what you said was your generation is full of talented people. where? mark schmuckerberg? if that's the best you guys can do we are in a heap of shit. the simple fact is your generation, because of the coddling , has no fire. you guys going to fight a war? how about a just war? you guys going to understand free markets and freedom? i don't think so. not from all the lgbt and blm bs that's going on. what i see is one very selfish generation that thinks they are owed the world. about the only thing you said that was right is that we who came before are the cause. that's true. as the father of two millenials i am pretty darn distressed at the way they feel entitled and don't have to work very hard. we'll see now that they're almost out of college but they have some pretty expensive tastes and, believe me, i could never afford to shop even at j crew then or even now. and we'll see how your little brain washed minds will somehow deprogram yourselves and get with the program. and if your group thinks the bern can pull this country out of obozo's tailspin, think again. I sense a lot of anger with you. So you agree that millennials aren't to blame for the way we were raised, and you agree that we still have yet to see what this generation will make of itself because we're still so young, and you agree that there are good and bad eggs in all generations. I'm not sure how anything you've said conflicts with anything I originally posted, but if this is your way of releasing your stress, I'm happy to help.
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Post by greenwichjetfan on Apr 15, 2016 9:57:47 GMT -5
Lets watch the areas of the country where minimum has been enacted and see what happens I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. Here 600 dudes who have no problem with it. www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/Feel free to watch what happens in Seattle. Not only is it proving a failure, but even if it had worked, do you really think what happens in a major metro area like that translates to rural and suburban areas all over the country? I don't pay minimum wage either, but I can tell you for certain that I have only 1 employee that is worth $15/hour. They'd all agree, which is why they have the salary they agreed to. Pretty idiotic statement that paying this fictional "living wage" to every employee should be incorporated into a good business plan. I don't even know where to start with that one. I don't think my brain can function on a level that low. But tell me more about 600 people who did NOT say they were ok with a $15 federal minimum wage. Insults aside, I agree. Wage markets are primarily set by supply and demand. Supply and demand in wage markets is based on a confluence of ability, necessity, and education. To overload any type of wage market for a business owner with a mandatory floor is counterproductive for both the employer, and many potential employees.
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Post by southparkcpa on Apr 15, 2016 10:17:32 GMT -5
Don't bother. He has none. Not an iota of knowledge on the subject. Pretty obvious the guy has never been a business owner, and hasn't a clue how the economy functions. If I had the knowledge that a $15 minimum wage was coming, there's no chance I would have taken the gamble to start my business. It would have tipped the scale of risk enough for me and many others looking to break in to not do it. That's no way to grow an economy. If that had come about during my first year of business, we would have incurred severe losses (market not amenable to raise the price of our product) and we would have closed shop instead of continuing on. Not only would my employees all be out of work, but my life savings would have been vanquished. Study after study proves how damaging the wage increase is. None if it matters to the ignorant masses who never employed a person ever, simply because it sounds nice. These idiots seem to think small businesses rack up huge profits, when in reality many of them are barely getting by or are losing money. Lets watch the areas of the country where minimum has been enacted and see what happens I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. Here 600 dudes who have no problem with it. www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/Scary that you and I have some equal feelings here. I believe we are close in age as well. You know, young and handsome. I hire an intern from the local university every year. I ask them what they want hourly and they say $15 etc... I tell them I dont want a $15 an hour employee. I tell them "Ill pay you $22 an hour BUT you must produce and take responsibility. Show up 10 minutes early and be professional." In 12 years of this, ive been disappointed only once. My assistant makes in excess of 75K and last year made near 100K. I told her the same thing when I hired her at 40K 9 years ago. She is now a fully licensed assistant with an EA designation for tax work. It drives me NUTS absolute NUTS when my clients are making literally 200K to $1.5 million and they pay their "manager" or key employee $75K. However, there are a LOT of jobs that just cant be above say $12 an hour without driving down the margin. I absolutely SMH when I think of a parent having a kid and rasing that kid so they are not worth $15 an hour. If you need government to get you $15 an hour... you dont deserve $15 an hour. You are a smple as this "fuck up".
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 15, 2016 10:19:35 GMT -5
Lets watch the areas of the country where minimum has been enacted and see what happens I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. Here 600 dudes who have no problem with it. www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/paying this fictional "living wage" to every employee should be incorporated into a good business plan. I don't even know where to start with that one. Im not surprise by this.
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 15, 2016 10:21:58 GMT -5
Lets watch the areas of the country where minimum has been enacted and see what happens I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. Here 600 dudes who have no problem with it. www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/Scary that you and I have some equal feelings here. I believe we are close in age as well. You know, young and handsome. I hire an intern from the local university every year. I ask them what they want hourly and they say $15 etc... I tell them I dont want a $15 an hour employee. I tell them "Ill pay you $22 an hour BUT you must produce and take responsibility. Show up 10 minutes early and be professional." In 12 years of this, ive been disappointed only once. My assistant makes in excess of 75K and last year made near 100K. I told her the same thing when I hired her at 40K 9 years ago. She is now a fully licensed assistant with an EA designation for tax work. It drives me NUTS absolute NUTS when my clients are making literally 200K to $1.5 million and they pay their "manager" or key employee $75K. However, there are a LOT of jobs that just cant be above say $12 an hour without driving down the margin. I absolutely SMH when I think of a parent having a kid and rasing that kid so they are not worth $15 an hour. If you need government to get you $15 an hour... you dont deserve $15 an hour. You are a smple as this "fuck up". Im glad you took the time to understand my point. BTW, how the fuck do you have time to post this week?
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 17, 2016 13:07:57 GMT -5
Don't bother. He has none. Not an iota of knowledge on the subject. Pretty obvious the guy has never been a business owner, and hasn't a clue how the economy functions. If I had the knowledge that a $15 minimum wage was coming, there's no chance I would have taken the gamble to start my business. It would have tipped the scale of risk enough for me and many others looking to break in to not do it. That's no way to grow an economy. If that had come about during my first year of business, we would have incurred severe losses (market not amenable to raise the price of our product) and we would have closed shop instead of continuing on. Not only would my employees all be out of work, but my life savings would have been vanquished. Study after study proves how damaging the wage increase is. None if it matters to the ignorant masses who never employed a person ever, simply because it sounds nice. These idiots seem to think small businesses rack up huge profits, when in reality many of them are barely getting by or are losing money. I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. What kind of businesses, and how large? What sort of employees? When you and Southpark talk about paying employees over minimum wage, I get the feeling you're talking about either small numbers of employees, more skilled/educated labor, or both? If I start a fast food place, Im going to pay someone $15 an hour to drop fries? The one thing I hate about the buzzword "living wage" is the definition... how do you define living wage? And its going to differ between NYC and rural Idaho certainly.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 17, 2016 13:14:18 GMT -5
Lets watch the areas of the country where minimum has been enacted and see what happens I've started 2 businesses. One I sold and the one I own now. I've never paid anyone minimum wage to begin with. If you cant afford to pay someone a living wage, you need to take second look at your business plan. Here 600 dudes who have no problem with it. www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/Scary that you and I have some equal feelings here. I believe we are close in age as well. You know, young and handsome. I hire an intern from the local university every year. I ask them what they want hourly and they say $15 etc... I tell them I dont want a $15 an hour employee. I tell them "Ill pay you $22 an hour BUT you must produce and take responsibility. Show up 10 minutes early and be professional." In 12 years of this, ive been disappointed only once. My assistant makes in excess of 75K and last year made near 100K. I told her the same thing when I hired her at 40K 9 years ago. She is now a fully licensed assistant with an EA designation for tax work. It drives me NUTS absolute NUTS when my clients are making literally 200K to $1.5 million and they pay their "manager" or key employee $75K. However, there are a LOT of jobs that just cant be above say $12 an hour without driving down the margin. I absolutely SMH when I think of a parent having a kid and rasing that kid so they are not worth $15 an hour. If you need government to get you $15 an hour... you dont deserve $15 an hour. You are a smple as this "fuck up". I've worked for a few corporations, and you see the same thing... where they nickel and dime on salaries, you have high turnover and a lack of productivity. You need to pay skilled employees to retain them. The old adage is true...you certainly get what you pay for... hard working, educated employees should be rewarded (or else they're going to go elsewhere). You have an assistant, and an intern... and a client base that I'm assuming pays you handsomely. I'd guess you're not running on shoestring margins, and certainly not the sort of small business that's going to bring in multiple typical minimum wage earners though?
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