|
Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 6, 2015 21:20:12 GMT -5
What shit? Not show up for a voluntary nothing camp, as is his right? People get so twisted when players do exactly what they are entitled to do. I clearly stated that was his right. Just like it is my right to wipe my ass with all of his "Jet 4 Life" BS. All of which doesn't mean he's pulling shit. He's not even holding out which people keep saying he's doing. You keep saying he pulling shit and because of this shit want to get rid of him. Staying home when you don't have to be somewhere isn't pulling shit. Staying home at the end of May during camp is pulling shit. There's no room for wussing out in negotiations and running just because your panties get twisted when someone stays home from a voluntary workout.
|
|
|
Post by choon328 on Apr 6, 2015 22:03:42 GMT -5
Get the fuck outta here with that. Mo has been the anchor of this defense since Revis left he is like a queen on a chess board on this dline can play at any spot and has never been a distraction. Mo's best years are ahead of him he's just entering his prime. I do think he should be there but Jets spent $149 on a secondary highlighted by Revis & Cromartie who have probably 3-4 good years left. Bottom line PAY THE MAN!!!!! Im sorry. I have learned to root for the laundry. The players do what is best for them which is their right. I want Mo here for life but if he is gonna pull some shit then he can go. He is not JJ Watt. Name another JJ Watt? Who the hell said he was asking for JJ Watt money? If he was looking for $10 million guaranteed he would still not show up to "voluntary" workouts. It is not in his best interest to do so. Idk how people don't realize that.
|
|
|
Post by choon328 on Apr 6, 2015 22:05:21 GMT -5
You can easily keep both Wilkerson AND Richardson together for the next 3 years. The Jets control Richardson for the next 3 years via his rookie deal and the 5th year option. You really don't have to pick one or the other until 2018. Your're right. Especially since we aint paying a QB big money. I mean keeping them both for the next 5 to 7 years. Cornerstones like Brick and Mangold. I dont think that will be possible. But we shall see. The cap is supposed to go up $40-$50 million over the next 4-5 years. There will be plenty of room for Mo and Sheldon under the cap.
|
|
|
Post by DDNYjets on Apr 7, 2015 7:53:18 GMT -5
Im sorry. I have learned to root for the laundry. The players do what is best for them which is their right. I want Mo here for life but if he is gonna pull some shit then he can go. He is not JJ Watt. Name another JJ Watt? Who the hell said he was asking for JJ Watt money? If he was looking for $10 million guaranteed he would still not show up to "voluntary" workouts. It is not in his best interest to do so. Idk how people don't realize that. I can't name another and never said he was asking for that type of money. I already stated in this thread what I feel like he is worth. IMO there are maybe 10 or so non-QBs in the league that are worth the contract/holdout agita. Mo is not one of them.
|
|
|
Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 7, 2015 9:20:40 GMT -5
What I find amazing is fans want stars, want great players. But don't want to pay them what their talent dictates they will be paid. Someone can say over and over again that Mo isn't worth it, because they want to protect the idea of their cap but Mo will get upper DLman pay, would get offers by most teams in the league, any team that has the cap room.
|
|
|
Post by vicmill on Apr 7, 2015 11:20:03 GMT -5
I call dickey move on his agents part. Sounds like they're far away on numbers. New G.M. Already said they would get deal done after the draft. Possible trade bait to move up? Hmmmm The GM said that to whom - the media? BFD - GMs say what they need to say?
How would you feel if they told Mo 2 years ago that they would get him done after the draft and nothing happened. Then they told him last year they'd get him done after the draft and nothing got done. And then the new GM came in and told him they'd get him done soon and nothing happened except 180 million or so being spent on a bunch of players, none of which is nearly as good as Mo (except Revis). I can see his frustration. He's been a team guy and he's not seeing it reciprocated.
As someone else said, what if he blows out his knee during workouts? He's screwed. He's entitled to do what he needs to do for himself and his family. The Jets need to do what they need to do, but they can't assume that he's going to continue to be a good soldier, if they're not going to show him the love they are showing to many others. Management's words are just words - they need to show action. We really don't know what he has been told or promised, so its ridiculous for any of us to draw any conclusions based on what we think he's been told or what the media tells us he's been told. They should either take care of the guy or tell him when they will and then stand by that promise.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 11:28:37 GMT -5
I understand Mo' frustration, he deserves to get paid and thus far has been a good solider. To be honest though I'm disappointed, he's not been voted to a pro bowl and is still under contract, I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing about his contract. This is the last thing I want to see when we have a new coach implementing a new system, Todd deserves full support of the players. Would have been nice to get off on the right foot. the new FO knew exactly what it was walking into here; dealing with unhappy elite players is part of the job. They can't just roll over. It's just how it goes when your home grown elite talent has a new FO in a contract year.
|
|
|
Post by choon328 on Apr 7, 2015 12:19:46 GMT -5
Name another JJ Watt? Who the hell said he was asking for JJ Watt money? If he was looking for $10 million guaranteed he would still not show up to "voluntary" workouts. It is not in his best interest to do so. Idk how people don't realize that. I can't name another and never said he was asking for that type of money. I already stated in this thread what I feel like he is worth. IMO there are maybe 10 or so non-QBs in the league that are worth the contract/holdout agita. Mo is not one of them. Ummm, this is not considered a contract holdout. A holdout is when a guy skips mandatory practice not voluntary workouts. The Bills had 6 guys who didn't show up for "voluntary" workouts. Are they all holding out? Shouldn't they all be there to show camaraderie with a new coaching staff? You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. When he doesn't show up in June when it's mandatory then you all can start bitching.
|
|
|
Post by TheMo on Apr 7, 2015 13:02:20 GMT -5
Name another JJ Watt? Who the hell said he was asking for JJ Watt money? If he was looking for $10 million guaranteed he would still not show up to "voluntary" workouts. It is not in his best interest to do so. Idk how people don't realize that. I can't name another and never said he was asking for that type of money. I already stated in this thread what I feel like he is worth. IMO there are maybe 10 or so non-QBs in the league that are worth the contract/holdout agita. Mo is not one of them. He's not holding out... what is so fucking hard to understand about that. These workouts are VOLUNTARY.
|
|
|
Post by Jetworks on Apr 7, 2015 16:43:04 GMT -5
Just so I have this all straight; Self-described team leader skips voluntary workouts of new administration while under contract, nothing to see here, STFU.
Fans who have an issue with this, STFU.
Also, the silly argument being put forth that "what if something happens to his knee" needs to stop. He's under contract and could've hurt that knee at any point before entering the final year of his contract. That didn't stop him from attending all the voluntary and mandatory workouts, did it? This is a clear instance of a player playing chicken with an organization so as to get a contract, while under contract. Could he be scared about an injury? Of course, but that's the job (like I hear so many say about cops being scared of being shot). Don't like it? Pull a Sean Gilbert and stick to your guns.
|
|
|
Post by choon328 on Apr 7, 2015 19:52:27 GMT -5
Just so I have this all straight; Self-described team leader skips voluntary workouts of new administration while under contract, nothing to see here, STFU. Fans who have an issue with this, STFU. Also, the silly argument being put forth that "what if something happens to his knee" needs to stop. He's under contract and could've hurt that knee at any point before entering the final year of his contract. That didn't stop him from attending all the voluntary and mandatory workouts, did it? This is a clear instance of a player playing chicken with an organization so as to get a contract, while under contract. Could he be scared about an injury? Of course, but that's the job (like I hear so many say about cops being scared of being shot). Don't like it? Pull a Sean Gilbert and stick to your guns. So if you had a "voluntary" activity at your job how many of your fellow employees would show up? And also, if they didn't show up would you think they were trying to prove a point to their boss or just chalk it up to the fact that it's not mandatory? Comparing an NFL football player to any other occupation is dumb and a terrible analogy. It's like when people try to suggesting balancing the federal budget like you would balance your own budget at home, it's two entirely different things. And you're right, he is under contract. But in his contract it states that he does not have to attend any team activity that is not mandatory. That is in every NFL players contract. So it is not in his contract that he has to show up for "voluntary" workouts like you're suggesting. I love how people try to tell others how to make their money and what they should be doing. You have no clue what goes on in an NFL players life and why he does the things he does. The best thing for him, his family and his future is to not attend these workouts in order to minimize the risk of injury. Are you suggesting that he doesn't do what is in his and his families best interest? Is that what you would do if you were in his position? You would of course say "team first", who cares if I'm going to risk million upon millions of dollars to go to a voluntary workout, that I'm not contractually obligated to attend, just to appease dickhead fans who think they know better. I'm sure that's what you would do.
|
|
|
Post by DDNYjets on Apr 8, 2015 11:41:54 GMT -5
I can't name another and never said he was asking for that type of money. I already stated in this thread what I feel like he is worth. IMO there are maybe 10 or so non-QBs in the league that are worth the contract/holdout agita. Mo is not one of them. Ummm, this is not considered a contract holdout. A holdout is when a guy skips mandatory practice not voluntary workouts. The Bills had 6 guys who didn't show up for "voluntary" workouts. Are they all holding out? Shouldn't they all be there to show camaraderie with a new coaching staff? You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. When he doesn't show up in June when it's mandatory then you all can start bitching. I can't name another and never said he was asking for that type of money. I already stated in this thread what I feel like he is worth. IMO there are maybe 10 or so non-QBs in the league that are worth the contract/holdout agita. Mo is not one of them. He's not holding out... what is so fucking hard to understand about that. These workouts are VOLUNTARY. I am not going to play semantics. He is threatening a fucking holdout. What does "might not be around for a while" mean? You guys are probably the same guys that were telling me FA wasn't over yet last year and that I shouldn't questions Idzik's lack of moves.
|
|
|
Post by choon328 on Apr 8, 2015 14:04:38 GMT -5
Ummm, this is not considered a contract holdout. A holdout is when a guy skips mandatory practice not voluntary workouts. The Bills had 6 guys who didn't show up for "voluntary" workouts. Are they all holding out? Shouldn't they all be there to show camaraderie with a new coaching staff? You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. When he doesn't show up in June when it's mandatory then you all can start bitching. He's not holding out... what is so fucking hard to understand about that. These workouts are VOLUNTARY. I am not going to play semantics. He is threatening a fucking holdout. What does "might not be around for a while" mean? You guys are probably the same guys that were telling me FA wasn't over yet last year and that I shouldn't questions Idzik's lack of moves. Neither Mo or his agent said he would be out for a while. Neither one threatened a holdout. Just bc some idiot media member wrote that doesn't mean it's factual. And to be honest he's not obligated to come in for 2 months.
|
|
|
Post by TheMo on Apr 8, 2015 14:26:55 GMT -5
Ummm, this is not considered a contract holdout. A holdout is when a guy skips mandatory practice not voluntary workouts. The Bills had 6 guys who didn't show up for "voluntary" workouts. Are they all holding out? Shouldn't they all be there to show camaraderie with a new coaching staff? You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. When he doesn't show up in June when it's mandatory then you all can start bitching. He's not holding out... what is so fucking hard to understand about that. These workouts are VOLUNTARY. I am not going to play semantics. He is threatening a fucking holdout. What does "might not be around for a while" mean?You guys are probably the same guys that were telling me FA wasn't over yet last year and that I shouldn't questions Idzik's lack of moves. What...? I have never seen that quoted from Mo or his agent. Stop trying to make myself and choon out to be Ray Ray when you are the one throwing a hissy fit and jumping to conclusions to the point where you think we should trade one of our best players ASAP. Like I said if he wants what Watt is getting we should look to trade him either this year or next (franchise tag). But we don't even know if that's how much he is asking for or if he is even trying to make a statement. His agent came out and said he wanted to maintain the regimen he was on with his personal trainer. Nothing from Mo's history makes me feel the need to double guess his intentions at this point.
|
|
|
Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 8, 2015 14:39:03 GMT -5
Ummm, this is not considered a contract holdout. A holdout is when a guy skips mandatory practice not voluntary workouts. The Bills had 6 guys who didn't show up for "voluntary" workouts. Are they all holding out? Shouldn't they all be there to show camaraderie with a new coaching staff? You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. When he doesn't show up in June when it's mandatory then you all can start bitching. He's not holding out... what is so fucking hard to understand about that. These workouts are VOLUNTARY. I am not going to play semantics. He is threatening a fucking holdout. What does "might not be around for a while" mean? You guys are probably the same guys that were telling me FA wasn't over yet last year and that I shouldn't questions Idzik's lack of moves. Put a link to the quote, by Mo, where he's threatened to hold out if his contract isn't ripped up and rewritten. In in fact while you're at it find a single quote by Mo or his agent where they claim Mo isn't at the facilities because of his contact. Mo or agent, not LaCanforna's guess. Otherwise stop with the drama queen accusations and the ridiculous fuck him, trade him, I root for the jersey nonsense.
|
|