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Post by sec.101row23 on Jun 2, 2015 9:56:05 GMT -5
Wilkerson's response to the Cam Jordan contract:
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 10:05:38 GMT -5
Wilkerson's response to the Cam Jordan contract: The hell is that supposed to mean?! |
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 2, 2015 10:07:54 GMT -5
Wilkerson's response to the Cam Jordan contract: The hell is that supposed to mean?! I guess I am not the only one who was confused by his comment. |
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Post by MDL JET on Jun 2, 2015 10:10:40 GMT -5
I think he means he sees that Mac is doing business the smart/patient way, so he fully understands how it works and will patiently wait too.
right?
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Post by Touchable on Jun 2, 2015 10:13:10 GMT -5
This is probably right in line with what Wilkerson can expect to get. That's what he should get. I hope we can find a way to keep Mo, but I don't see how anyone can justify paying a DL who averages 7 sacks a year $14+ million per. He's batshit if he thinks he's worth even close to what guys like Watt and Justin Houston are. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jun 2, 2015 10:13:33 GMT -5
Does he mean he sees Mac is letting the market set the value for similar players before making an offer?
He could be looking at that positively or negatively.
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Post by choon328 on Jun 2, 2015 10:17:19 GMT -5
Wilkerson is a better player than Cam Jordan. This may be the domino the agent and the Jets were waiting for to fall though. I think this benefits the Jets. I expect A Wilkerson deal to come in between $12-$13 million per year.
Someone suggested that he turned down a Quinn type offer but that has never been reported anywhere so I have no clue where that person is getting his info and trying to pass it off as a fact. I think if he was offered that money he'd take it and run. Especially since Quinn is a 4-3 DE and they typically get paid more. I think he's getting offered Ngata money, around $12 million per and he and his agent were hoping the Jordan contact would be higher to boost his deal. But Jordan came in at $11 million per in new money so that hurts their case. Hopefully this gets resolved soon.
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 2, 2015 10:24:28 GMT -5
I guess that the good news out of this is that the Saints were one of the few teams with less cap space than we have. If they could find a way to extend Jordan, then we can find a way to get something done with Mo -- assuming they can come to an agreement.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jun 2, 2015 10:30:32 GMT -5
I guess that the good news out of this is that the Saints were one of the few teams with less cap space than we have. If they could find a way to extend Jordan, then we can find a way to get something done with Mo -- assuming they can come to an agreement. It's all in how a deal is structured. Even Robert Quinn's deal was pretty team friendly. while it may "average" 14 million per year, the fact is that only this year does Quinn have a cap number north of 14M. His cap is 16M this year but then drops to 11M, 10M, 12M and 12M from 2016 to 2019. |
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 2, 2015 10:39:41 GMT -5
I guess that the good news out of this is that the Saints were one of the few teams with less cap space than we have. If they could find a way to extend Jordan, then we can find a way to get something done with Mo -- assuming they can come to an agreement. It's all in how a deal is structured. Even Robert Quinn's deal was pretty team friendly. while it may "average" 14 million per year, the fact is that only this year does Quinn have a cap number north of 14M. His cap is 16M this year but then drops to 11M, 10M, 12M and 12M from 2016 to 2019. I am no cap expert, but with only ~$5MM in cap room and and that number only applies to the top 51 contracts right now, I am not sure how much space we have to front load Mo's contract. However, since the Saints who are in worse shape than we are found a way to get something done, I am assuming we can also find a way if we really want to lock Mo up. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jun 2, 2015 10:43:55 GMT -5
It's all in how a deal is structured. Even Robert Quinn's deal was pretty team friendly. while it may "average" 14 million per year, the fact is that only this year does Quinn have a cap number north of 14M. His cap is 16M this year but then drops to 11M, 10M, 12M and 12M from 2016 to 2019. I am no cap expert, but with only ~$5MM in cap room and and that number only applies to the top 51 contracts right now, I am not sure how much space we have to front load Mo's contract. However, since the Saints who are in worse shape than we are found a way to get something done, I am assuming we can also find a way if we really want to lock Mo up. A lot of the time the new money doesn't kick in until the following year so there can be little to no increase to this years cap. For example: Wilk is due to make 7M this year with all of that money counting against the cap. You could give him a 12M signing bonus and convert 6M of his base salary to bonus and actually lower his cap number from 7M to 4.6M. You would then have a prorate bonus cap hit of 3.6M from 2015 to 2019. |
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Post by sadface on Jun 2, 2015 10:50:27 GMT -5
mo kinda sounds like a kid who is trying to be outspoken and butthurt but it just isnt his nature, so his comment comes out flat
i love ya mo but peace
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 11:08:31 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like Mo has some unrealistic expectations and he may end up standing in his own way.
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Post by choon328 on Jun 2, 2015 11:36:14 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like Mo has some unrealistic expectations and he may end up standing in his own way. What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. |
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 12:01:46 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like Mo has some unrealistic expectations and he may end up standing in his own way. What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. Read the thread. I dont have proof of shit other than his tweets what are you talkin bout? |
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