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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 2, 2015 12:45:07 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like Mo has some unrealistic expectations and he may end up standing in his own way. What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. The proof is he didn't show up for OTAs. And that leaves us with two choices. The Jets low-balled him or he and his agents are on some sort of pipe dream.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jun 2, 2015 12:51:14 GMT -5
What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. The proof is he didn't show up for OTAs. And that leaves us with two choices. The Jets low-balled him or he and his agents are on some sort of pipe dream. I doubt those are the only choices. Much of the Wilkerson negotiation rumors centered around when Idzik was GM. Who knows if there actually have been serious negotiations between Maccagnan and Wilks agent so far?
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 2, 2015 13:00:32 GMT -5
The proof is he didn't show up for OTAs. And that leaves us with two choices. The Jets low-balled him or he and his agents are on some sort of pipe dream. I doubt those are the only choices. Much of the Wilkerson negotiation rumors centered around when Idzik was GM. Who knows if there actually have been serious negotiations between Maccagnan and Wilks agent so far? True. That is a realistic third option. Although I hope that is not the case. I would rather have disagreement than nothing at all. Any other theories?
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 13:09:30 GMT -5
What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. The proof is he didn't show up for OTAs. And that leaves us with two choices. The Jets low-balled him or he and his agents are on some sort of pipe dream. And from the sound of his tweeting it sure seems that he has some kind pipe dream going on. Too bad. The guy is under contract. And he may be great, but he aint Revis level great so he needs to wake up.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jun 2, 2015 13:10:36 GMT -5
I doubt those are the only choices. Much of the Wilkerson negotiation rumors centered around when Idzik was GM. Who knows if there actually have been serious negotiations between Maccagnan and Wilks agent so far? True. That is a realistic third option. Although I hope that is not the case. I would rather have disagreement than nothing at all. Any other theories? It really doesn't bother me that a deal hasn't been done yet. Makes sense for Maccagnan to not sit down and start serious negotiations until now. He was busy with draft prep and free agency from day one of being hired, now he has a better look at his cap after free agent dollars have been spent and what his future liabilities are. I will be concerned when both sides come in to seriously negotiate a deal and one doesn't get done.
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Post by jcappy on Jun 2, 2015 13:13:51 GMT -5
The proof is he didn't show up for OTAs. And that leaves us with two choices. The Jets low-balled him or he and his agents are on some sort of pipe dream. And from the sound of his tweeting it sure seems that he has some kind pipe dream going on. Too bad. The guy is under contract. And he may be great, but he aint Revis level great so he needs to wake up. Maybe Revis has taken him under his wing, teaching him how to hold out and win the heart of a fan base. What a guy.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 2, 2015 13:14:02 GMT -5
mo kinda sounds like a kid who is trying to be outspoken and butthurt but it just isnt his nature, so his comment comes out flat i love ya mo but peace That's how it sounded to me too
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 2, 2015 13:55:56 GMT -5
True. That is a realistic third option. Although I hope that is not the case. I would rather have disagreement than nothing at all. Any other theories? It really doesn't bother me that a deal hasn't been done yet. Makes sense for Maccagnan to not sit down and start serious negotiations until now. He was busy with draft prep and free agency from day one of being hired, now he has a better look at his cap after free agent dollars have been spent and what his future liabilities are. I will be concerned when both sides come in to seriously negotiate a deal and one doesn't get done. Next week, if he does not show up for mandatory minicamp is when I will be concerned.
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Post by choon328 on Jun 2, 2015 14:11:48 GMT -5
What are his expectations? I'm just asking bc it has never been reported anywhere what kind of contact he's looking for. The only one ever seen is people in this site guessing as to what he's asking for. If he's looking for $12-$13 per year then he's well within his value. Cameron Jordan just got $11 million per year and he's not nearly as talented overall as Mo. So again please provide me with some statement from Mo's agent or a reputable source that has given out the contract numbers Mo is looking for. I'd love to see that. Read the thread. I dont have proof of shit other than his tweets what are you talkin bout? Your opinion was that Mo has "unrealistic expectations". So I asked what your opinion is based on. How do you know he has unrealistic expectations without knowing what kind of contract he's looking for? Or are you just basing it off Untouchable saying he's "heard" that Mo turned down Quinn money? Which has no truth to it at all. So I just wanted to know if you think his expectations are unrealistic then you must have some insight into what kind of contract he's looking for. Otherwise I don't know how you could comment on his expectations. But maybe you and others more know than every local and national media member.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 14:32:43 GMT -5
Read the thread. I dont have proof of shit other than his tweets what are you talkin bout? Your opinion was that Mo has "unrealistic expectations". So I asked what your opinion is based on. How do you know he has unrealistic expectations without knowing what kind of contract he's looking for? Or are you just basing it off Untouchable saying he's "heard" that Mo turned down Quinn money? Which has no truth to it at all. So I just wanted to know if you think his expectations are unrealistic then you must have some insight into what kind of contract he's looking for. Otherwise I don't know how you could comment on his expectations. But maybe you and others more know than every local and national media member. My opinion is based on rumors of silly money, no-showing, and tweets from Mo. I'd say that's enough to form an opinion of "it SEEMS as if Mo has some unrealistic expectations" More probable than not, if you will.
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Post by choon328 on Jun 2, 2015 14:56:00 GMT -5
Your opinion was that Mo has "unrealistic expectations". So I asked what your opinion is based on. How do you know he has unrealistic expectations without knowing what kind of contract he's looking for? Or are you just basing it off Untouchable saying he's "heard" that Mo turned down Quinn money? Which has no truth to it at all. So I just wanted to know if you think his expectations are unrealistic then you must have some insight into what kind of contract he's looking for. Otherwise I don't know how you could comment on his expectations. But maybe you and others more know than every local and national media member. My opinion is based on rumors of silly money, no-showing, and tweets from Mo. I'd say that's enough to form an opinion of "it SEEMS as if Mo has some unrealistic expectations" More probable than not, if you will. So based on nothing factual then. Got it.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 2, 2015 15:22:19 GMT -5
My opinion is based on rumors of silly money, no-showing, and tweets from Mo. I'd say that's enough to form an opinion of "it SEEMS as if Mo has some unrealistic expectations" More probable than not, if you will. So based on nothing factual then. Got it. Did I even say it was a fact? I said " it seems" which is basically a theory bro... not sure why you're getting all bent outta shape here, lol. Mo is skipping work in protest, and tweeting passive agressive comments while he's under contract for 2 more years. And as I said before, he aint Revis level great. Love the guy, but he's not taking down every QB he faces... cmon now.
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Post by Touchable on Jun 2, 2015 15:25:01 GMT -5
Wilkerson is a better player than Cam Jordan. This may be the domino the agent and the Jets were waiting for to fall though. I think this benefits the Jets. I expect A Wilkerson deal to come in between $12-$13 million per year. Someone suggested that he turned down a Quinn type offer but that has never been reported anywhere so I have no clue where that person is getting his info and trying to pass it off as a fact. I think if he was offered that money he'd take it and run. Especially since Quinn is a 4-3 DE and they typically get paid more. I think he's getting offered Ngata money, around $12 million per and he and his agent were hoping the Jordan contact would be higher to boost his deal. But Jordan came in at $11 million per in new money so that hurts their case. Hopefully this gets resolved soon. Yes it was reported It was on twitter a couple months ago during the scouting combine that the Jets supposedly offered Wilkerson a deal in the same ballpark as Quinn's and he turned it down.
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Post by RageATL on Jun 2, 2015 18:35:19 GMT -5
Now that Cam Jordan signed his new extension, Mac has a ballpark figure to work with for a comparable offer. Mo's extension might have occured earlier had Williams not fallen to us, but that's the way this business works. I expect Mo's extension to be announced soon. If he holds out from minicamp, then things will get interesting.
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Post by jetstream23 on Jun 2, 2015 18:37:42 GMT -5
Sounds a lot like Mo has some unrealistic expectations and he may end up standing in his own way. I agree. He's having a hard time sitting around and watching other players sign deals, but he can't live by carriously through them.
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