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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 17:50:34 GMT -5
I was certain we were going to be able to keep Mo, Snacks and Fitz with some creative cuts, restructures and new contract clauses, but with this Bradford money....I have to rethink that.
Fitz is not worth $18 per year, probably not even the $12 number.
Oh well, I guess you reap what you sow....we were the ones throwing around $6 mil a year to get guys like Buster when the going market for a guy like him was closer to $4 mil.
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 2, 2016 18:01:34 GMT -5
Wonder what Osweiler's going to get? Probably in the same ballpark And if that's the case, I'd take Osweiler over Fitz. Brock still has a shitload of potential. Fitz is what he is. If we make a run at Brock -- I just hope we structure a deal so we can get out after a couple of years with minimal cap impact if he sucks. The guy has only started 7 games in his NFL career. His ceiling is higher than Fitz, but his floor is also lower.
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Post by Aussie Jet on Mar 2, 2016 18:08:43 GMT -5
Seems to me that the deal the Eagles did with Bradford was borne out of desperation.
I wouldn't entertain thoughts of taking Osweiler away from the Broncos. Manning is done in Denver and Osweiler is the succession plan. Whatever his agent commands, the Broncos will pay or he'll be unaffordable to both the Broncos and the Jets.
I think Fitzpatrick has been around the NFL long enough to realise that simply because one team made a boneheaded deal with a QB doesn't necessarily mean that his current employer will be sucked into making a similarly boneheaded deal with him. For one thing, Fitzpatrick has been around the league longer than Bradford so all potential 32 employers are well aware of his warts. He's comfortable within the Jets system under Gailey and he would appreciate that the Jets have a veteran set of wide receivers who can make him look good. I hope that counts for a lot.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Mar 2, 2016 19:28:44 GMT -5
I bet Fitz has no desire to go to yet another team. He will take the best deal he can get from the Jets. And Big Mac knows this.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 2, 2016 19:37:57 GMT -5
Probably in the same ballpark And if that's the case, I'd take Osweiler over Fitz. Brock still has a shitload of potential. Fitz is what he is. If we make a run at Brock -- I just hope we structure a deal so we can get out after a couple of years with minimal cap impact if he sucks. The guy has only started 7 games in his NFL career. His ceiling is higher than Fitz, but his floor is also lower. Agreed Wouldn't make more than a 3 year offer for Osweiler. Ideally 2 for something like $26-28 million with $12-13 million guaranteed. Basically the same as I'd offer Fitz. If Fitz wants guaranteed money in the same range as Bradford then he can fuck off. That's just not worth it to me. Not for a 12th year career journeyman in every sense of the word. I'm not expecting Fitz to suddenly evolve into a QB who is capable of stringing together 4,000 yard, 30 TD seasons. Odds are he falls back down to earth next season, especially with the likes of Seattle, Arizona and LA on the schedule.
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 2, 2016 19:54:39 GMT -5
Joe Flacco gets 3-year extension with record $40M signing bonus
"We did not do a deal to gain cap room. We did a deal so Joe Flacco could be on this football team for the next six years."
The three-year agreement is worth $66.4 million and includes an NFL record $40 million signing bonus, a source told ESPN's Adam Caplan. This allows the Ravens to keep their franchise quarterback under contract through 2021 and alleviates some restless nights in the future for general manager Ozzie Newsome.
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Post by jetstream23 on Mar 2, 2016 20:16:35 GMT -5
Joe Flacco gets 3-year extension with record $40M signing bonus "We did not do a deal to gain cap room. We did a deal so Joe Flacco could be on this football team for the next six years." The three-year agreement is worth $66.4 million and includes an NFL record $40 million signing bonus, a source told ESPN's Adam Caplan. This allows the Ravens to keep their franchise quarterback under contract through 2021 and alleviates some restless nights in the future for general manager Ozzie Newsome. Sweet baby jesus....what is someone like Aaron Rogers or Cam Newton worth? 1 Trillion Dollars?
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 2, 2016 22:09:33 GMT -5
I let Fitz walk the guy was a victim of a easy schedule. With the Jets having a tougher schedule the real Fitz will show up and the Jets will be paying 15 million a year for a back up QB. Draft a QB find a QB off the scrap heap like RG3 and have a QB competition. The Jets are better off using the money to keep Harrison. The fans wanted to spend QB money on Revis now everyone should learn why Idzik traded Revis away so you have Money to resign players like Wilkinson, Harrison, and have wiggle room to sign Fitzpatrick. Right now its not looking good losing Harrison is a big deal, NTs are not easy to find a elite one. Sure you can sign a scrub like Terrance Knight but it isn't to the same level as snacks.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 0:47:28 GMT -5
I let Fitz walk the guy was a victim of a easy schedule. With the Jets having a tougher schedule the real Fitz will show up and the Jets will be paying 15 million a year for a back up QB. Draft a QB find a QB off the scrap heap like RG3 and have a QB competition. The Jets are better off using the money to keep Harrison. The fans wanted to spend QB money on Revis now everyone should learn why Idzik traded Revis away so you have Money to resign players like Wilkinson, Harrison, and have wiggle room to sign Fitzpatrick. Right now its not looking good losing Harrison is a big deal, NTs are not easy to find a elite one. Sure you can sign a scrub like Terrance Knight but it isn't to the same level as snacks. Correct.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 3, 2016 7:17:19 GMT -5
I let Fitz walk the guy was a victim of a easy schedule. With the Jets having a tougher schedule the real Fitz will show up and the Jets will be paying 15 million a year for a back up QB. Draft a QB find a QB off the scrap heap like RG3 and have a QB competition. The Jets are better off using the money to keep Harrison. The fans wanted to spend QB money on Revis now everyone should learn why Idzik traded Revis away so you have Money to resign players like Wilkinson, Harrison, and have wiggle room to sign Fitzpatrick. Right now its not looking good losing Harrison is a big deal, NTs are not easy to find a elite one. Sure you can sign a scrub like Terrance Knight but it isn't to the same level as snacks. i don't know if you just let fitz walk. it all depends on what he's asking for and it probably won't be 15M per season. the other thing that comes into play is how the jets feel about genot. if they think he can be the guy then maybe he should start. he was winning the qb battle before he got punched. genot has more physical talent than fitz it's his decision making that is terrible. but if genot is the guy for this season then next season the jets will need to negotiate a contract with him next season, and if he's successful, he won't come cheap. and of course there's petty and whoever they draft in the low rounds. the bottom line is fitz was able to bring some good leadership to the qb position and it showed. can he repeat?
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Post by heymangold on Mar 3, 2016 7:21:26 GMT -5
sign RG3 for cheap and hope he can figure it out.
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 3, 2016 7:31:15 GMT -5
I let Fitz walk the guy was a victim of a easy schedule. With the Jets having a tougher schedule the real Fitz will show up and the Jets will be paying 15 million a year for a back up QB. Draft a QB find a QB off the scrap heap like RG3 and have a QB competition. The Jets are better off using the money to keep Harrison. The fans wanted to spend QB money on Revis now everyone should learn why Idzik traded Revis away so you have Money to resign players like Wilkinson, Harrison, and have wiggle room to sign Fitzpatrick. Right now its not looking good losing Harrison is a big deal, NTs are not easy to find a elite one. Sure you can sign a scrub like Terrance Knight but it isn't to the same level as snacks. i don't know if you just let fitz walk. it all depends on what he's asking for and it probably won't be 15M per season. the other thing that comes into play is how the jets feel about genot. if they think he can be the guy then maybe he should start. he was winning the qb battle before he got punched. genot has more physical talent than fitz it's his decision making that is terrible. but if genot is the guy for this season then next season the jets will need to negotiate a contract with him next season, and if he's successful, he won't come cheap. and of course there's petty and whoever they draft in the low rounds. the bottom line is fitz was able to bring some good leadership to the qb position and it showed. can he repeat? Fitz value depends on if there is or isn't a market for him in free agency. Could a team like the Texans who have about $30 mil in cap space try to bring him in for a year or two while a rookie (Hackenberg?) could sit for a year or two. It only takes one other team interested in him to drive up his price. My guess at this point is he winds up getting a two year deal worth somewhere between $12MM & $15MM per season. At the beginning of the offseason, I thought it would be $8MM to $10MM.
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Post by jets.penguin on Mar 3, 2016 9:18:12 GMT -5
anything more than 13m for fitz and I say pass...th sched is going to be harder and the eagles just overpaid. I'd rather let genot, petty and whoever we draft fight it out with this harder sched. either one person will shine or we will cut genot next year and have a #1 pick to get a real QB...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 9:55:24 GMT -5
i don't know if you just let fitz walk. it all depends on what he's asking for and it probably won't be 15M per season. the other thing that comes into play is how the jets feel about genot. if they think he can be the guy then maybe he should start. he was winning the qb battle before he got punched. genot has more physical talent than fitz it's his decision making that is terrible. but if genot is the guy for this season then next season the jets will need to negotiate a contract with him next season, and if he's successful, he won't come cheap. and of course there's petty and whoever they draft in the low rounds. the bottom line is fitz was able to bring some good leadership to the qb position and it showed. can he repeat? Fitz value depends on if there is or isn't a market for him in free agency. Could a team like the Texans who have about $30 mil in cap space try to bring him in for a year or two while a rookie (Hackenberg?) could sit for a year or two. It only takes one other team interested in him to drive up his price. My guess at this point is he winds up getting a two year deal worth somewhere between $12MM & $15MM per season. At the beginning of the offseason, I thought it would be $8MM to $10MM. This right here....and there are plenty of QB needy teams with plenty of money to spend....that's going to be our problem. Our hope is that Fitz realizes that at this point in his career he's got lots of money saved up (the Harvard guy certainly didn't blow it all on fancy cars and jewelry right?) and is willing to take less money to remain in what is clearly the most favorable situation for him. The only other place I could see Fitz going is Denver.....if they lose Brock. Denver would be attractive to Fitz if they lose Brock because Fitz would figure he could do exactly what Manning did this year and go along for a ride to the Superbowl with that defense.
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Post by Peebag on Mar 3, 2016 10:30:58 GMT -5
We ain't winning squat with the Fitznator - If the Jets pay him more than 8 mil a year, it's a mistake.
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