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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 16:58:12 GMT -5
Fuck Gailey, I'm moist over that. So badly want a young QB to build around. So much that you will take just any one of them no matter how shitty and unprepared? So the new staff can get fired, and rinse repeat? You want to get rid of the best OC we may have ever had in the history of the franchise? Do you not remember how shitty awful the offense has been in for fuck ever? I remember it and it fucking sucks. And some rookie half ass QB is not gonna help that at all. Face it, it will be Fitz Petty or Geno starting and we need to be patient about this shit and not just waste drafts trying to get some half-ass rookie that wasn't even that good in college and 9 out of 10 will be another Geno, Sanchez etc.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 17:22:59 GMT -5
Fuck Gailey, I'm moist over that. So badly want a young QB to build around. So much that you will take just any one of them no matter how shitty and unprepared? So the new staff can get fired, and rinse repeat? You want to get rid of the best OC we may have ever had in the history of the franchise? Do you not remember how shitty awful the offense has been in for fuck ever? I remember it and it fucking sucks. And some rookie half ass QB is not gonna help that at all. Face it, it will be Fitz Petty or Geno starting and we need to be patient about this shit and not just waste drafts trying to get some half-ass rookie that wasn't even that good in college and 9 out of 10 will be another Geno, Sanchez etc. You gotta take your lumps with a rook, simple as that. I want us to evaluate and then commit to a guy we have a future with, whoever that maybe is upto our scout GM. Hopefully we can end up with a Derek Carr, Blake Bortles or Andy Dalton Instead of the same half assed approach to the position year after year. You seriously sayin we should pay Fitz 15 mil a year to safeguard Bowles and Gailey's job by winning 6-8 games? and never draft a QB high because of the bust potential? The the NFC west and AFC north will feast on his nuts like rabid wolverines next year so who gives a fuck, get younger because next year is a write off anyway as far as I'm concerned That's why you have a scout GM, go find his QB and do what you have to do to get him if your evaluation tells you he's worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 17:27:03 GMT -5
I just can see a "Paxton" bein a HOF'r. Maybe, maybe not.... but i know Gailey's getting moist over arm talent like this I still say Devin Smith was drafted with the idea that Geno would be the QB. Devin Smith is a waste of a draft pick if the thought was Fitz was going to be the starter for few years. Smith deep ball ability is nothing with a QB like Fitz who is historically bad at throwing the deep ball. Now someone with this kind of arm strength really make Smith an important weapon in the offense.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 17:55:25 GMT -5
So much that you will take just any one of them no matter how shitty and unprepared? So the new staff can get fired, and rinse repeat? You want to get rid of the best OC we may have ever had in the history of the franchise? Do you not remember how shitty awful the offense has been in for fuck ever? I remember it and it fucking sucks. And some rookie half ass QB is not gonna help that at all. Face it, it will be Fitz Petty or Geno starting and we need to be patient about this shit and not just waste drafts trying to get some half-ass rookie that wasn't even that good in college and 9 out of 10 will be another Geno, Sanchez etc. You gotta take your lumps with a rook, simple as that. I want us to evaluate and then commit to a guy we have a future with, whoever that maybe is upto our scout GM. Hopefully we can end up with a Derek Carr, Blake Bortles or Andy Dalton Instead of the same half assed approach to the position year after year. You seriously sayin we should pay Fitz 15 mil a year to safeguard Bowles and Gailey's job by winning 6-8 games? and never draft a QB high because of the bust potential?The the NFC west and AFC north will feast on his nuts like rabid wolverines next year so who gives a fuck, get younger because next year is a write off anyway as far as I'm concerned That's why you have a scout GM, go find his QB and do what you have to do to get him if your evaluation tells you he's worth it. Fitz 15M fuck no. More like 7-8 and he will take that. I don't want us wasting high picks on SHITTY QBs just for the hell of it. And none of these QBs will be good (at least 1st rd worthy) Not afraid of NFC West and AFC North. The same damn argument every single season. Not scared. Anyone can be beat. And we will beat teams. Just like we will "never" beat NE. Can't rolleyes hard enough for this scared talk on that shit. But I get it.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 3, 2016 17:57:00 GMT -5
Fuck Gailey, I'm moist over that. So badly want a young QB to build around. So much that you will take just any one of them no matter how shitty and unprepared? So the new staff can get fired, and rinse repeat? You want to get rid of the best OC we may have ever had in the history of the franchise? Do you not remember how shitty awful the offense has been in for fuck ever? I remember it and it fucking sucks. And some rookie half ass QB is not gonna help that at all. Face it, it will be Fitz Petty or Geno starting and we need to be patient about this shit and not just waste drafts trying to get some half-ass rookie that wasn't even that good in college and 9 out of 10 will be another Geno, Sanchez etc. I'm confused. What are you trying to say? You don't like rookie QBs? Or you don't like rookie QBs being forced into action? Who are you referring to that wasn't good in college?
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 18:02:51 GMT -5
You gotta take your lumps with a rook, simple as that. I want us to evaluate and then commit to a guy we have a future with, whoever that maybe is upto our scout GM. Hopefully we can end up with a Derek Carr, Blake Bortles or Andy Dalton Instead of the same half assed approach to the position year after year. You seriously sayin we should pay Fitz 15 mil a year to safeguard Bowles and Gailey's job by winning 6-8 games? and never draft a QB high because of the bust potential?The the NFC west and AFC north will feast on his nuts like rabid wolverines next year so who gives a fuck, get younger because next year is a write off anyway as far as I'm concerned That's why you have a scout GM, go find his QB and do what you have to do to get him if your evaluation tells you he's worth it. Fitz 15M fuck no. More like 7-8 and he will take that. I don't want us wasting high picks on SHITTY QBs just for the hell of it. And none of these QBs will be good (at least 1st rd worthy) Not afraid of NFC West and AFC North. The same damn argument every single season. Not scared. Anyone can be beat. And we will beat teams. Just like we will "never" beat NE. Can't rolleyes hard enough for this scared talk on that shit. But I get it. I like your confidence man but it's not scared it's reality, those defenses like the Hawks, Cards, Rams, Pitt, Balt, will beat the living shit out of a limited QB that can't push the ball downfield. The gravy train is over for Fitz feastin on shit defenses like this year, he's a marked man. I actually like Wentz and think Lynch looks like a solid prospect. Fine line between confidence and delusion my friend, just like Rex the tough talk has gotta be backed up.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 18:05:20 GMT -5
Fitz 15M fuck no. More like 7-8 and he will take that. I don't want us wasting high picks on SHITTY QBs just for the hell of it. And none of these QBs will be good (at least 1st rd worthy) Not afraid of NFC West and AFC North. The same damn argument every single season. Not scared. Anyone can be beat. And we will beat teams. Just like we will "never" beat NE. Can't rolleyes hard enough for this scared talk on that shit. But I get it. I like your confidence man but it's not scared it's reality, those defenses like the Hawks, Cards, Rams, Pitt, Balt, will beat the living shit out of a limited QB that can't push the ball downfield. The gravy train is over for Fitz feastin on shit defenses like this year, he's a marked man. I actually like Wentz and think Lynch looks like a solid prospect. Fine line between confidence and delusion my friend, just like Rex the tough talk has gotta be back up. Bowles knows those teams well. I have confidence in him to neutralize them. Pitt and Balt will be a pain in the balls as usual, but not like we can't win those. I bet we win one of them. They will be close either way. We could win both or lose both.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 18:09:25 GMT -5
I like your confidence man but it's not scared it's reality, those defenses like the Hawks, Cards, Rams, Pitt, Balt, will beat the living shit out of a limited QB that can't push the ball downfield. The gravy train is over for Fitz feastin on shit defenses like this year, he's a marked man. I actually like Wentz and think Lynch looks like a solid prospect. Fine line between confidence and delusion my friend, just like Rex the tough talk has gotta be back up. Bowles knows those teams well. I have confidence in him to neutralize them. Pitt and Balt will be a pain in the balls as usual, but not like we can't win those. I bet we win one of them. They will be close either way. We could win both or lose both. Like i said, can't fault your enthusiasm but I'm stickin with my gut, I think the tape is there and those teams have seasoned defenses that will key in and give us the Fitz the league has known for 11 years and thats a 6 win QB after he's cashed in. If that's the case why pay 10-15 mil for it? Go evaluate and pull the trigger on a kid with upside, get next season outta the way and hope you have a Carr or Bortles when you come out of the other side. Either way we are fucked next year.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 18:11:45 GMT -5
Bowles knows those teams well. I have confidence in him to neutralize them. Pitt and Balt will be a pain in the balls as usual, but not like we can't win those. I bet we win one of them. They will be close either way. We could win both or lose both. Like i said, can't fault your enthusiasm but I'm stickin with my gut, I think the tape is there and those teams have seasoned defenses that will key in and gives us the Fitz the league has known for 11 years, and that a 6 win QB. If that's the case why pay 10-15 mil for it? Go evaluate and pull the trigger on a kid with upside, get next season outta the way and hope you have a Carr or Bortles when you come out of the other side. Either way we are fucked next year. I said 7-8 not 10-15. I wouldn't do 10-15.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 18:12:56 GMT -5
Nobody is bangin down Fitz door. He will be signed for a very team friendly deal or we will prob go with Petty/Geno.
And then Fitz will sign for cheap as hell around TC.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 3, 2016 18:15:30 GMT -5
I still can't fathom we are being held to ransom over Ryan Fitzpatrick. I'm pissed we would throw 8 mil a year at him. If he couldn't make the playoffs with last years schedule then there's no hope for him. Why pay this guy to win 6-8 games tops next year? If we are gonna suck then let's suck with Goff, Wentz, CH, Cook, petty.......anyone that has a shot at bein the future for this team. No argument from me dude. I was never on board with Fitz as more than a nice slice of competence in 2015. If I was in control id be trading #20 plus Mo to go up and draft a QB. the thing is there's a huge reason why bowles had fitz start the week after his thumb injury when genot was right there and presumably ready. if a guy with a bum thumb gives you the best chance of winning then that alone speaks volumes about how they feel about genot. and also how the team feels about him.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 18:17:19 GMT -5
Like i said, can't fault your enthusiasm but I'm stickin with my gut, I think the tape is there and those teams have seasoned defenses that will key in and gives us the Fitz the league has known for 11 years, and that a 6 win QB. If that's the case why pay 10-15 mil for it? Go evaluate and pull the trigger on a kid with upside, get next season outta the way and hope you have a Carr or Bortles when you come out of the other side. Either way we are fucked next year. I said 7-8 not 10-15. I wouldn't do 10-15. Breer reported 10-15 is the goin rate for a starter with the stats he put up this year. The Bradford deal did us no favours. 7-8 is to rich for my blood for tragic, I want him gone.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 3, 2016 18:23:44 GMT -5
I said 7-8 not 10-15. I wouldn't do 10-15. Breer reported 10-15 is the goin rate for a starter with the stats he put up this year. The Bradford deal did us no favours. 7-8 is to rich for my blood for tragic, I want him gone. You will be disappointed.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 3, 2016 18:29:20 GMT -5
No argument from me dude. I was never on board with Fitz as more than a nice slice of competence in 2015. If I was in control id be trading #20 plus Mo to go up and draft a QB. the thing is there's a huge reason why bowles had fitz start the week after his thumb injury when genot was right there and presumably ready. if a guy with a bum thumb gives you the best chance of winning then that alone speaks volumes about how they feel about genot. and also how the team feels about him. To put it bluntly; what the hell does that have to do with what I said?
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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2016 18:36:45 GMT -5
Breer reported 10-15 is the goin rate for a starter with the stats he put up this year. The Bradford deal did us no favours. 7-8 is to rich for my blood for tragic, I want him gone. You will be disappointed. I was disappointed last year when I was proved right that a career journeyman bum would fall flat on his face with the opportunity of a lifetime starin him square in the face. Now we are sat here wondering if our saviour will sign for 8 mil a year for another guaranteed no playoff season if he starts. Meanwhile Jill's fans where rollin laughin because thy have seen the story before. You Fitz apologist got proved wrong last year. Case closed.
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