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Post by Hotman on Jan 9, 2015 5:05:42 GMT -5
@dpbrugler: If Mike Maccagnan gets the #Jets GM job, it's the best acquisition for that franchise in years. Great eye for talent and an awesome guy @dpbrugler: There are certain NFL execs you are guaranteed to see at scouting events. Ted Thompson is one and Mac is another. Always a scout at his core @dpbrugler: @elicuse He was a big Hopkins guy at WR. And I believe Glover Quin was one of his guys too. Lots of good talks w/ him about prospects @dpbrugler: @ganggreennyc Yep, he's been the right hand man of the GM for awhile in Houston. Stuff like this is good to hear. There was absolutely nothing like this when it come to Idzik.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 6:15:10 GMT -5
So by the looks of it,if this guy turns out to be our new GM.Does this pretty much some it up that Marrone will be our next HC? Ifeel like its leaning that way.
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Post by Hotman on Jan 9, 2015 6:21:08 GMT -5
So by the looks of it,if this guy turns out to be our new GM.Does this pretty much some it up that Marrone will be our next HC? Ifeel like its leaning that way. Not exactly. Hearing he and Quinn or even Bowles could be just fine but who really knows. Sure sounds like Quinn is the guy tho. Just not allowed to be "official" yet.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 9, 2015 6:48:49 GMT -5
@dpbrugler: @ganggreennyc Yep, he's been the right hand man of the GM for awhile in Houston. This is key for those who are questioning if this super scout can make the jump to GM. If he's honestly 2nd in command, he's been groomed for this role for years....
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 9, 2015 8:52:23 GMT -5
I don't think being 'quiet' (as the article describes him) precludes him from having a Type A, decisive personality. There wasn't really much at all to go on there as to what kind of personality he is. I agree. I don't care if he is quiet or not -- as long as he is decisive and makes decisions at the pace they need to be made during FA negotiations and the draft.
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Post by Dcat on Jan 9, 2015 8:54:46 GMT -5
He's never had to negotiate with agents. Oh my God. He's going to get eaten alive. I'm fine with the prospects of his talent evaluation abilities, but with no experience in the shark tank of the world of contracts, negotiations and dealing with highly skilled agents, not to mention being under the spotlight in the media, he is probably not ready for this type of position.
Now of course he could turn out to be sensational, but make no mistake... this guy comes with a big red "High Risk" stamp right on his forehead. I'd rather Woody choose someone else, to be honest
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Post by Dcat on Jan 9, 2015 8:58:12 GMT -5
I don't think being 'quiet' (as the article describes him) precludes him from having a Type A, decisive personality. There wasn't really much at all to go on there as to what kind of personality he is. He'd better be a type-A if he plans on being successful dealing with NFL agents. I don't think he has the right experience for this position yet.
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Post by Dcat on Jan 9, 2015 8:59:20 GMT -5
I'm not seeing how being a laid back guy is some kind of huge fucking negative. It's not the "laid back". It's the inexperience with negotiations and agents.
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Post by RobR on Jan 9, 2015 9:16:12 GMT -5
You need to be a type 1 personality too lead an NFL franchise or any successful corporation for that matter. We just dealt with a sit in the corner dick pulling GM and that didn't work so well. Nonsense. the NFL is littered with laid back GMs who have been successful. Who have lead their organizations to multiple championships and who you wouldn't recognize if they were sitting next to you. Ron Wolf, Casserly, George Young, Poulion, on and on. GMs pick players to draft, choose FAs and have nothing to do with leading anyone . That's the CS As usual it goes right over your head. Just because the guys you listed don't run around screaming their heads off in a buffoonery manner doesn't mean they're not type A personalities. I need a GM that is decisive, has a clear vision, and can make decisions in a moments notice. Is Maccagnan that guy? I don't know and neither does anyone else here, we can just hope he is if hired.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 9, 2015 9:22:48 GMT -5
He's never had to negotiate with agents. Oh my God. He's going to get eaten alive. I'm fine with the prospects of his talent evaluation abilities, but with no experience in the shark tank of the world of contracts, negotiations and dealing with highly skilled agents, not to mention being under the spotlight in the media, he is probably not ready for this type of position. Now of course he could turn out to be sensational, but make no mistake... this guy comes with a big red "High Risk" stamp right on his forehead. I'd rather Woody choose someone else, to be honest It's his job to find his Omar Khan to help him in this aspect. A GM is only as good as the staff around him. Bottom line is...it will be good to have a guy with his eye for talent as the final say in the war room come draft time
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Post by Touchable on Jan 9, 2015 9:45:12 GMT -5
I'm not seeing how being a laid back guy is some kind of huge fucking negative. It's not the "laid back". It's the inexperience with negotiations and agents. What's your point? I could say the same thing about any front office guy that isn't a former GM or a cap specialist.
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Post by choon328 on Jan 9, 2015 9:53:23 GMT -5
So by the looks of it,if this guy turns out to be our new GM.Does this pretty much some it up that Marrone will be our next HC? Ifeel like its leaning that way. I think Marrone goes to Chicago with Pace. Pace getting the GM job there was a big upset b/c most people had Ballard going there and the thought was that's why he turned down the Jets interview. Pace has a much stronger tie to Marrone than Maccagnan does. I think if the Jets were going to hire Marrone it would be down already. Why would you let him go interview elsewhere and take the risk of him not coming here? All indications were that the Jets were Marrone's first choice, not the other way around. That's why his agent, and by association, Schefter came out 10 minutes after he opted out and said the Jets were the favorite to land him. It was all a marketing ploy to drum up interest. Schefter has the same agent as Marrone.
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Post by Harrier on Jan 9, 2015 9:53:45 GMT -5
What do people want? Hire a cap guy....Not good enough.
Hire a scout....Not good enough.
So we want a guy that is a genius at both? Eric Dacosta is not happening, as long as we have a scout guy the rest will take care of itself.
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Post by morite on Jan 9, 2015 9:54:43 GMT -5
So by the looks of it,if this guy turns out to be our new GM.Does this pretty much some it up that Marrone will be our next HC? Ifeel like its leaning that way. Not exactly. Hearing he and Quinn or even Bowles could be just fine but who really knows. Sure sounds like Quinn is the guy tho. Just not allowed to be "official" yet. Last night at 10:30 SNY SportsNite was citing Fox Sports as their source that Quinn and the Jets are just about a done deal, and that Quinn was actively making inquiries around the league recruiting coordinators for the Jets gig. Take that for what its worth. Eamon McAnaney reading off of queue cards.
I can't stand it anymore, and I'm not sure why!!
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Post by choon328 on Jan 9, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5
It's not the "laid back". It's the inexperience with negotiations and agents. What's your point? I could say the same thing about any front office guy that isn't a former GM or a cap specialist. Yeah I don't get his point either. You can't take other teams GM's from them so the majority of time teams are bringing guys in who are most likely going to be GM's for the first time. GM's are not like coaches, they don't typically get 2nd and 3rd chances at GM. Casserly has been dying to be a GM since he left Houston and he hasn't had any opportunities to do that. And this is a guy who won 3 Super Bowls as an executive, 2 of which he was the assistant GM. He's also the guy who got all of the Saints picks when they traded their entire draft to get the ability to draft Ricky Williams. And he still drafted Champ Bailey that year at #12. He was a very good GM but like I said earlier, GM's don't typically get 2nd or 3rd chances.
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