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Post by astoria on Jan 9, 2015 10:13:11 GMT -5
I'm all in on this guy. I just hope he doesn't bring the ultra-conservative Marrone with him. I'm so sick of us playing in the previous century offensively.
Maccagnan/Quinn 2015.
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Post by morite on Jan 9, 2015 10:21:38 GMT -5
I'm all in on this guy. I just hope he doesn't bring the ultra-conservative Marrone with him. I'm so sick of us playing in the previous century offensively. Maccagnan/Quinn 2015. Ditto...many will cite he's a defensive guy, but he'll have Maccagnan, Casserly and Wolf advising him on the selection of the OC. On paper, we'd be in the best position possible with these two guys on board, with Bowles and Marrone as Plan B and C respectively for HC.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 9, 2015 10:59:14 GMT -5
@jasonlacanfora 8m8 minutes ago
With Jets having a 2nd interview with well-supported GM candidate Mike Maccagnan wouldn't be surprised at all if he's hired this weekend
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 9, 2015 11:17:48 GMT -5
@jasonlacanfora 8m8 minutes ago With Jets having a 2nd interview with well-supported GM candidate Mike Maccagnan wouldn't be surprised at all if he's hired this weekend
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Post by Paradis on Jan 9, 2015 11:20:02 GMT -5
I was hoping Wolf jr. was going to be the guy, but when that got snuffed out - I've been fully on board with the Mac... make it happen Tanny!
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jan 9, 2015 11:30:26 GMT -5
I was hoping Wolf jr. was going to be the guy, but when that got snuffed out - I've been fully on board with the Mac... make it happen Tanny! I wanted the drunk, but I guess after he went to the skins, this guy will do. Although who the hell knows. He can't be worse than Idzik though. No one can. So, yay I guess
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Post by Touchable on Jan 9, 2015 11:36:46 GMT -5
What's your point? I could say the same thing about any front office guy that isn't a former GM or a cap specialist. Yeah I don't get his point either. You can't take other teams GM's from them so the majority of time teams are bringing guys in who are most likely going to be GM's for the first time. GM's are not like coaches, they don't typically get 2nd and 3rd chances at GM. Casserly has been dying to be a GM since he left Houston and he hasn't had any opportunities to do that. And this is a guy who won 3 Super Bowls as an executive, 2 of which he was the assistant GM. He's also the guy who got all of the Saints picks when they traded their entire draft to get the ability to draft Ricky Williams. And he still drafted Champ Bailey that year at #12. He was a very good GM but like I said earlier, GM's don't typically get 2nd or 3rd chances. Exactly Where the fuck is this "Super GM" candidate that has a proven track record of scouting the college ranks, has a detailed personnel background, has cap management experience and has negotiated deals for players? The only guy I can think of who even comes close to that description is Eric DeCosta and it's pretty clear that he's committed to remaining in Baltimore seeing as that he's turned down every interview extended his way for the last decade.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 9, 2015 11:55:55 GMT -5
What do people want? Hire a cap guy....Not good enough. Hire a scout....Not good enough. So we want a guy that is a genius at both? Eric Dacosta is not happening, as long as we have a scout guy the rest will take care of itself. Very true. The cap stuff and contract negotiations isn't as difficult as people make it out to be. The way contracts are structured now is pretty standard, and managing the cap all comes down to how much flexibility you want to maintain. The most important quality that a GM needs to have is the ability to have an overall vision of what he wants his team to be and the ability to find players that fit his vision. It's really pretty simple.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 9, 2015 12:00:25 GMT -5
@jasonlacanfora 8m8 minutes ago With Jets having a 2nd interview with well-supported GM candidate Mike Maccagnan wouldn't be surprised at all if he's hired this weekend I would hope they make the decision by this weekend, the Shrine Game practices start on Monday and it would be good if whoever the GM is going to be starts getting some face time with these prospects.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 9, 2015 12:01:39 GMT -5
What do people want? Hire a cap guy....Not good enough. Hire a scout....Not good enough. So we want a guy that is a genius at both? Eric Dacosta is not happening, as long as we have a scout guy the rest will take care of itself. Very true. The cap stuff and contract negotiations isn't as difficult as people make it out to be. The way contracts are structured now is pretty standard, and managing the cap all comes down to how much flexibility you want to maintain. The most important quality that a GM needs to have is the ability to have an overall vision of what he wants his team to be and the ability to find players that fit his vision. It's really pretty simple. Exactly Just look at that dude Jason who used to post on JI. He essentially knows the Jets cap like the back of his hand and he originally started that nyjetscap site just for shits and giggles as a little hobby in his spare time.
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Post by gangrene on Jan 9, 2015 12:59:21 GMT -5
Personally I'd prefer a hard ass son of a bitch running the Jets. This I'm not comfortable in front of the cameras approach is for church on Sundays. What did Idzik say "we are a family" Damn, I want out of that family.
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Post by phillyjet on Jan 9, 2015 13:02:34 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get his point either. You can't take other teams GM's from them so the majority of time teams are bringing guys in who are most likely going to be GM's for the first time. GM's are not like coaches, they don't typically get 2nd and 3rd chances at GM. Casserly has been dying to be a GM since he left Houston and he hasn't had any opportunities to do that. And this is a guy who won 3 Super Bowls as an executive, 2 of which he was the assistant GM. He's also the guy who got all of the Saints picks when they traded their entire draft to get the ability to draft Ricky Williams. And he still drafted Champ Bailey that year at #12. He was a very good GM but like I said earlier, GM's don't typically get 2nd or 3rd chances. Exactly Where the fuck is this "Super GM" candidate that has a proven track record of scouting the college ranks, has a detailed personnel background, has cap management experience and has negotiated deals for players? The only guy I can think of who even comes close to that description is Eric DeCosta and it's pretty clear that he's committed to remaining in Baltimore seeing as that he's turned down every interview extended his way for the last decade. Makes me wonder if the Jets are planning to have someone above Maccagnan (hint: Casserly) similar to what they are doing in Miami, Baltimore, and elsewhere. AKA, head of football operations, with the GM and coach reporting to him
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Post by Hotman on Jan 9, 2015 16:38:34 GMT -5
Exactly Where the fuck is this "Super GM" candidate that has a proven track record of scouting the college ranks, has a detailed personnel background, has cap management experience and has negotiated deals for players? The only guy I can think of who even comes close to that description is Eric DeCosta and it's pretty clear that he's committed to remaining in Baltimore seeing as that he's turned down every interview extended his way for the last decade. Makes me wonder if the Jets are planning to have someone above Maccagnan (hint: Casserly) similar to what they are doing in Miami, Baltimore, and elsewhere. AKA, head of football operations, with the GM and coach reporting to him Damn I fuckin hope so
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 9, 2015 17:53:19 GMT -5
I'm not seeing how being a laid back guy is some kind of huge fucking negative. It's not the "laid back". It's the inexperience with negotiations and agents. Just curious how much specific information has been made available about his background and how you know for certain he hasn't negotiated with agents, etc.? Is it because he's not been the GM? As others have said those guys aren't available if they're any good. You have to take a chance on giving someone a promotion, and it seems easier to learn contract negotiation than identifying talent and having a philosophy to building a team, and easier to delegate contract negotiatio. And maybe he has negotiated contracts anyway.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 9, 2015 17:54:11 GMT -5
Exactly Where the fuck is this "Super GM" candidate that has a proven track record of scouting the college ranks, has a detailed personnel background, has cap management experience and has negotiated deals for players? The only guy I can think of who even comes close to that description is Eric DeCosta and it's pretty clear that he's committed to remaining in Baltimore seeing as that he's turned down every interview extended his way for the last decade. Makes me wonder if the Jets are planning to have someone above Maccagnan (hint: Casserly) similar to what they are doing in Miami, Baltimore, and elsewhere. AKA, head of football operations, with the GM and coach reporting to him If that's the case, McCloughan would have been the perfect candidate. Great talent scout who might need a little help with the executive part of the job.
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