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Post by rangerous on Oct 28, 2015 16:09:12 GMT -5
not that losing a starter is good but tons of teams have patchwork olines and do very well. wasn't the patsie oline one of story lines? in recent times the chargers and the steelers have both had young or lines made up of second stringers and have done just fine. and look at the seahawks. the jets picked up their starting rt and lg in the past two seasons. so it seems like the whole notion of the oline being gold plated is wrong.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 28, 2015 6:11:44 GMT -5
The flats* will deflate any courage they've built playing cupcake teams over the last 2 weeks.... Not much to see here, other then the fact that the Jets love to lose to Miami at home agree the patsies will take the wood to them. the doltfins have been a huge tease for the past decade or so. tannenhill has some ability but there's not much else on offense except landry. but in reality the jets just have to play to their potential first. they do that and they will win.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 16:19:03 GMT -5
More likely for sucking as an NFL QB. Mallet > Fitzsukky and Geno combined. you're a friggin moron.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 16:18:27 GMT -5
In the near future, the O line must be upgraded, and get younger for the Jets to challenge in the AFC East. This upgrade must be balanced with other positional needs/upgrades, either via the draft, trade or free agency. Not an easy task, but I have faith in the new GM to get this done. I agree, but the Jets HAVE tried over and over to upgrade and get younger. They seem to draft or sign at least 1-2 O-Linemen every year (Winters isn't old, Aboushi drafted a few years ago, Dozier last year, Harrison this year). The problem seems to be that they haven't hit that home run yet. The Jets haven't found that one surprise guy who gets drafted in Round 4 and then surprises everyone in camp by immediately winning a starting OG spot. And when that doesn't happen you have to do things like sign a Breno Giacomini and a James Carpenter. they haven't hit a home run but rex never even let some of them step up to the plate. now that the truth is leaking out it seems pretty clear that rex did not develop players very well and it was far easier for them to sign guys on decline to short contracts hoping that they would pan out. remember back in 98 and 99? tuna drafted fabini, young and thomas. those guys turned out pretty well. recently they tried drafting fairly high for ducasse. slauson sin't playing that badly. austin howard wasn't that back at right tackle. so to me it seems like they've had mangold and brick forever and have rotated a whole bunch of guys through and hardly ever let a young player get established. we'll see. it seems like bowles has a dofferent attitude about getting players in the game.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 11:49:03 GMT -5
The fact that we could even realistically have this debate is a feat within itself! well, yes it is. but the question remains, did having colon for rg impact the running game? i don't know. what i do know is that winters did pretty well in the games colon sat out.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 6:02:26 GMT -5
yeah we all know that ivory had a hamstring pull early in the game and wasn't that effective. but it seems to me that the running game was working better when colon was out and winters was in. no knock on colon but winters is bigger and younger. a few extra blocks here and there and who knows?
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 5:27:22 GMT -5
What about that move blitzing two guys leaving Gronkowski free to roam and sail into the end zone. That seemed , shall we say, in advisable. Surprised no one is criticizing that play call Read my recent reply. I watched us defending that play all game until they needed to hold to make it work. It wasn't a bad defensive call, it was a hold keeping Sheldon Richardson from dropping back with his hands up. The sack in the first half deep in our end in the first half was caused because we weren't held and Shelldawg was in the way. i didn't see it in detail like you did but it looked like the safety and lb both rushed off the edge and gronkowski released untouched into an open area. something was wrong on that play. the lb probably had to engage gronkowski and let the safety run in free. i'm not sure where the hold comes in unless the interior was beaking in.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 5:20:31 GMT -5
He did bring in Ivory, Decker, Sheldon, Pryor etc, and I still think Amaro and Milliner will be good players once Bowles gets his hands on them. He wasn't great but in reality he was just another scapegoat in the long line of Rex Ryan fall guys. at this point, i'm not so sure about amaro. not that he doesn't have any talent but it doesn't look like gailey wants to use his te's as receivers. and the jets really don't need another tall guy with marshall and decker. of course the patsies showed how effective the te can be in the passing game. that guy chandler had some key catches.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 27, 2015 5:17:44 GMT -5
Chris Johnson is burning motherfuckers left and right this year...right after he got shot in the fucking chest. Can you think of a better compliment to Ivory? It's laughable how inept this team had been until Bowles and Master Chan arrived on the scene. yeah i noticed that too. he's second in the league in yds er carry. but man he was also beat up quite badly by the fans. i'm not going to crow about how i felt but i thought he showed a lot more speed than he was getting credit for and the holes just weren't there for him to run through. it's hard to say what went wrong last season but it sure sounds like many coaches were going through the motions with rex and idzik feuding.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 26, 2015 19:23:11 GMT -5
...the pass to Smith on the three and out between the Pats two TD's in the 4th, and the bullshit shift on FG that caused Carpenter to jump. Two huge plays, that is all. i think i'd put the 3-17 play right up there along with brady's scramble. they needed to get some serious pressure at 3rd and 17 and if brady wants to run like that they need to break his legs.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 26, 2015 19:17:03 GMT -5
imo the jets should win the rst of their division games. that gets them to 8 wins. then all they need are 2 or 3 more. i'm still looking at 12-4 because that will be a true statement year and that's still possible. the next four games, oak, jax, buff, and hou should all be wins. sure buffalo will get rex high since it's in the met but so what. that team is in disarray. there's a reason why nobody except buffalo bit on ej manual.
the bottom line is they play yesterday's game against any of the next 4 and they will come up with a W. that gets them to 8-2 with 6 left.
all of those teams currently at 6-0 except for green bay and the patsies are going to falter. happens every year.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 26, 2015 12:20:46 GMT -5
Oakland has looked pretty good the last couple of weeks, granted against some not so great teams, but this isn't the automatic win it once would have been even at the start of the season. Luckily, coming off the loss and with the business-like approach we've had so far I don't see the team overlooking the matchup. Raiders offense essentially revolves all around their young guns, Cooper, Murray and Carr at the helm. Cooper had 133 yards, 5 catches and a TD against the Chargers - Michael Crabtree is their distant number two with eight other receivers having targets yesterday. With Revis on Cooper he'll be limited, if not eliminated from the game, and Carr will be forced to find these other 'studs' like Clive Walford and Seth Roberts and make them work for it. If we can actually get a pass rush going against the young Carr we're immediately controlling the passing game. That is still a big IF, however. Our rushing defense has spoken for itself - when Tom Brady is the leading rusher with 15 yards yesterday, we're doing something right - and a still largely unproven Murray will not have much to work with. Their defense is more worrying to me - Hayden, Woodson and Smith round them out - but they do struggle vs the run. If Fitz starts tossing up some fettuccine and challenges their secondary often, that's where we might hit trouble, but sticking with what we're been doing should be more than enough. Oakland aside, this team can't beat itself. There were a lot of lapses in judgement yesterday and really we played maybe 58 minutes of football - not the full 60. Can't blow coverages on 3rd and long. Can't commit untimely penalties. Need to get some semblance of a functional special teams unit working. Can't drop big passes. All stuff that's mostly fixable, hopefully the team can learn from it's mistakes and the coaching staff and see where the deficiencies lie. Not a gimme, but very winnable. Yesterday's loss tells us a lot about this team - how they respond next week in Oakland will tell us even more. If we lose next week then you can start panicking, right now I think we're right on track. hopefully the special teams will do better. it's been mentioned but the worst thing the jets did was allow the patsies to play on short fields. bowles didn't say the punter would be and quigley's injury sounded pretty strange.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 26, 2015 12:17:41 GMT -5
In truth, the Jets are a QB away from being a Superbowl contender. Which, unfortunately, is just like being light years away. true enough about needing a qb with a better arm. i'm no geno fan but i do think he is capable of game managing. lst season both games were 3 point losses and it can be argued that the jets should've won both. if fitz's arm strength is seriously keeping this team away from greatness then maybe geno needs to be rethought. and there's that whole thing about players not losing their status because of injury. i'm not trying to take a thing from fitz. he's done very well but at this point, even if they make the playoffs, this is a one or two game playoff team at best. the really good teams are going to keep playing 8 or 9 in the box until they get by going downfield.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 26, 2015 5:28:46 GMT -5
This was another chess game between the Cheaters, and the Jets, where it was up for grabs until late in the game. The way I see it, it came down to a few plays, two Weatherford sub-par punts of under 40 yards to set the Cheaters up; the Marshall dropped catch in the end zone; Rainbow Tom completing a 3rd and 17 for a first down, (how the F do you give that one up???); and the last Gronk TD. The whole thing pisses me off to no end, but a play or two going the Jets way, results in a different outcome. don't forget the strip sack that tommy boy managed to recover. i would be concerned with the pass rush but only how it was in foxboro. bring it to metlife where the refs call the holds and it's a different story. and the reason why it was a 4 man rush is because if you don't drop tommy early the receivers get open with their pick plays. the jets did a good job of tackling at the reception and not allowing too many yac. the offense didn't help itself either. fitz's early funble, marshall's drop in the end zone, the pass interference non call in the end zone to cumberland. it all adds up. one thing about the dropped passes, especially by edelman, maybe they're finally using a pumped up ball.
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Post by rangerous on Oct 25, 2015 17:03:15 GMT -5
no doubt losing pryor and having ivory at half speed hurt. but you simply can't make the injury excuse and expect to be a top team. here's to hoping they'll be back next week.
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